Author Topic: Logitech MOMO issues.....  (Read 2817 times)

[SJ]tromoly

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Logitech MOMO issues.....
« on: August 09, 2009, 09:47:33 pm »
Alright, earlier today I was practicing for a race with a few other guys, and everything is fine, I finish running for a bit and whatnot. Then, ten minutes later, I boot rFactor, having not moved my wheel or done ANYTHING, and when I get in game I have no steering, but my pedals work. So I exit game, and unplug/replug my wheel.

This is where things go bad. When I plug it back in, the centering motor jiggles the wheel back and forth for a bit, then pulls it all the way to the left. I can move the wheel, but it pulls all the way to the left when I let go, and again the steering doesn't register at all but the pedals work perfectly.

I've tried removing and reinstalling drivers, the Logitech Profiler, the whole nine yards, and nothing. I took the wheel apart, and it's basically the motor keeps spinning to one side and doesn't stop (even when at the stops - that thing is HOT), so I'm not sure if it's software related or hardware related.

Anyone have any ideas? I've tried everything I can think of and really don't know what to do.

[SJ]Pierre61

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Re: Logitech MOMO issues.....
« Reply #1 on: August 09, 2009, 09:52:23 pm »
Wild guess, maybe something is shorting? A blast through with an air duster might be worth while. Tenuous I know, but anything cheap is worth a shot.

Gutted for you mate :(

[SJ]JuneBug

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Re: Logitech MOMO issues.....
« Reply #2 on: August 09, 2009, 10:49:45 pm »
Yeah, sounds like something for sure mechanical or otherwise is activating the motor to spin the wheel. How does a momo generally calibrate itself?

[SJ]KL Mallender

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Re: Logitech MOMO issues.....
« Reply #3 on: August 10, 2009, 04:22:34 am »
When I start the tower, mine rotates left to right quickly then goes full left lock, I turn the wheel to full right lock and it then centers itself, done it since day one.

Kevin.

[SJ]jason brown

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Re: Logitech MOMO issues.....
« Reply #4 on: August 10, 2009, 09:24:22 am »
I had a problem like this on gtl and it was down to what force feedback was chosen in the game , single player was fine but online i had no response at all and my pc showed everything working correctly. The game had chosen a standard force feed back causing my wheel and pedals not to repsond , I changed it and all is well.Give it a try it may work

[SJ]Pierre61

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Re: Logitech MOMO issues.....
« Reply #5 on: August 10, 2009, 12:01:59 pm »
I had a problem like this on gtl and it was down to what force feedback was chosen in the game , single player was fine but online i had no response at all and my pc showed everything working correctly. The game had chosen a standard force feed back causing my wheel and pedals not to repsond , I changed it and all is well.Give it a try it may work


That sounds like exactly the same problem Beta was having at the Alfatina... good bit of info regarding a solution there mate thumbs up

[SJ]jason brown

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Re: Logitech MOMO issues.....
« Reply #6 on: August 10, 2009, 12:11:16 pm »
one thing i did forget to mension is when i reset the force feed back in game i had to redo the brake and accelerate , clutch and steering config cos those had reset to default as well.

[SJ]tromoly

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Re: Logitech MOMO issues.....
« Reply #7 on: August 16, 2009, 06:04:59 pm »
Well, had time to try a couple things today. Plugged in the wheel just to see what would happen, and it worked for a bit, then I Alt-Tabbed out of rFactor, went back in, and no steering, power cycled the wheel and the FFB motor went haywire again. Gave it about an hour and plugged it into a different computer, as soon as it had power the motor went haywire again, looks like a hardware issue :(

D Whitney

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Re: Logitech MOMO issues.....
« Reply #8 on: August 16, 2009, 06:40:56 pm »
Well, had time to try a couple things today. Plugged in the wheel just to see what would happen, and it worked for a bit, then I Alt-Tabbed out of rFactor, went back in, and no steering, power cycled the wheel and the FFB motor went haywire again. Gave it about an hour and plugged it into a different computer, as soon as it had power the motor went haywire again, looks like a hardware issue :(

I had a similar problem to this in a Microsoft FFB wheel about a decade ago. IIRC the problem was that a cog had become worn out and was disengaging.

In regards to Jason's comments. I've been using my Logitech Formula Force GP -the wheel that historically proceeded the original MOMO Force- in GTL and GTR2. When I last had the wheel working I was using the the 4.60 drivers, but upgraded to the new 5.04 Gaming Software (drive) and immediately noticed a new checkbox in advanced settings - 'allow software to control settings'. I suspect there's some problem with this feature in GTL and GTR2 and I've sometimes experienced my steering, throttle and brake axis being altered when I change FF settings and sometimes when I start either game. It's happened enough that I'm now in the habit of 1st checking the calibration each time I start the games. I haven't tried unchecking the Logitech checkbox I mentioned above, but I suspect it may cause problems for some wheels and I'm guessing this isn't a problem with newer wheels like the G25.

As well, something I've noticed with logitech game controllers many moons ago is that the axis settings occassionaly behave differently when the Gaming Software applet is loaded in the systray. When I've had problems with unstable axis -i.e. drift or spikes- I've sometimes been able to resolve them by loading the applet.

My biggest problem however, is trying to figure out which newer Logitech wheel more closely matches my aging FF GP.  :dunno:
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