Author Topic: FPS Low  (Read 2431 times)

[SJ]DieselJC

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FPS Low
« on: November 17, 2008, 01:15:28 pm »
So lately I have been watching my Frame rates..normally really dont watch it..My average is almost 30frames below what alot of people get..My card is relatively good from what I have been told..its a 2 yr old nVidia 7300GT 512MB not overclocked or anything but a good solid card..I average between 26-40fps on any track..thats alone in practice..drops more if theirs more cars..I would think I should get more..also get a bit of stuttering as well..I dont run everything on full but more a mixture of high and med settings.,,I dont have antialiasing on and use trilinear in rfactor..but fps issue is in all my games GTR2/GTL/Race/GTR Evo..just thinkI should be getting more fps for what the card is..guess I am asking for some advice on settings, maybe its something obvious I am missing..been considering buying a new card but have been told this is a decent card and I should be getting better fps than I am..any tips or advice would be appreciated..Thanks.

JC

[SJ]DRokK

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Re: FPS Low
« Reply #1 on: November 17, 2008, 01:36:51 pm »
first thing to check is for dust build up on your cpu and gpu heat sinks. poor airflow can really slow things down.

[SJ]dirtyvfr

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Re: FPS Low
« Reply #2 on: November 17, 2008, 03:26:10 pm »

[SJ]DieselJC

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Re: FPS Low
« Reply #3 on: November 17, 2008, 03:46:34 pm »
Well I did clean the whole machine out..fired up the air compresser in the shop and blew the whole thing out..it did have a layer of dust on it..I have DX set to auto wich goes to DX 9 I think..havent done anything with sound card drivers..I have an Audigy Sound blaster..low range card...auto updates are turned off online or offline doesnt matter..just re-tested with everything clean..testing at Miller Motorsports Park..29fps leaving garage..30-35 fps pit lane and 35-40 around the track...and that track isnt very graphic intense..so still alot lower than should be..the card is nVidia..I went to update the driver a couple weeks ago and it really messed stuff up..monitor was flickering and I couldnt do a thing..had to re-boot in safe mode and re-install the orig driver to 93.81...what is QoS? I have 3 comps hooked thru a router I host with one game with one and one is my laptop. Thanks for the replies..any other tips/ideas would be great..Thanks.

JC

[SJ]Tysmyster

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Re: FPS Low
« Reply #4 on: November 17, 2008, 04:34:02 pm »
Which 7300 do you have?
There's a list HERE which shows the different models. As you can see the GT is almost twice as fast as the SE or the LE. Anyway, was wondering which one you have. Also, what are the other specs of your computer?
To me it doesn't sound like you're getting less frames than you should. Maybe.

The 7300, in spite of what you might have heard, is not really a fast card, it's a budget line card, and it's pretty old too. Please tell me your other specs.

Of course, just cleaning up your entire system, reformatting the drives and reinstalling windows never hurts performance. I doubt it will go up dramatically though.

[SJ]Pierre61

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Re: FPS Low
« Reply #5 on: November 17, 2008, 04:35:49 pm »
Special effects can be a real killer also. I have mine either low or off depending on track and No. of cars.

[SJ]DieselJC

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Re: FPS Low
« Reply #6 on: November 17, 2008, 04:52:51 pm »
Which 7300 do you have?
There's a list HERE which shows the different models. As you can see the GT is almost twice as fast as the SE or the LE. Anyway, was wondering which one you have. Also, what are the other specs of your computer?
To me it doesn't sound like you're getting less frames than you should. Maybe.

The 7300, in spite of what you might have heard, is not really a fast card, it's a budget line card, and it's pretty old too. Please tell me your other specs.

Of course, just cleaning up your entire system, reformatting the drives and reinstalling windows never hurts performance. I doubt it will go up dramatically though.


My card is the GT..with the 512 onboard Ram PCI-E
Other specs are AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core 3800 Processor
2GB Ram
250GB HDD
Power supply is 400W
I am usially good about keeping the system clean and free of alot of junk..I also have alot of processes shut down or turned off  (from a post in rsc)
I was on vent with Marc Loukas early this morning and we were doing some testing..at Monza in rFactor I was averaging 35fps while he was at 50-60 we went through before hand and set up my settings same as his and from what he said his card is older and not as powerful as mine...on a side note..as long as I had the air compresser fired up I also cleaned out my other desktop I use for a server..it made a decent difference in that machine just in normal starting up and web use.

JC

[SJ]tromoly

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Re: FPS Low
« Reply #7 on: November 17, 2008, 05:38:21 pm »
I'd highly recommend getting a new card, the rest of your machine sounds great. I'm currently running an AMD 64 X2 5000+ with 2GB DDR2-800 ADATA RAM and an nVidia 8600GT, and in GTR2/GTL/rFactor I'm routinely getting 75+ FPS on an average track. I picked up my 8600GT almost a year ago for a tick over $90, you should be able to get a comparable card (or even 9-series) for about the same price. Just my $0.02.

[SJ]Azza007

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Re: FPS Low
« Reply #8 on: November 17, 2008, 08:56:02 pm »
Hey mate I have had plenty of experience with low FPS on my old system.... some of the things that improved it:

Checking that AA and AF are set to Application Preference in NVidia control panel thingy (cant remember what its called as Im on ATI...)

Turning off the Vertical Sync setting - made a huge difference old my old rig....

other than that do as the others suggest....  I would also look at moving the DX from Auto to maybe 8 to see what improvement there is....I really cant tell that much difference between them anyway.......

[SJ]dirtyvfr

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Re: FPS Low
« Reply #9 on: November 17, 2008, 10:35:18 pm »
also check when your machine boots that you have the same amount of ram as you have installed, check cpu speed at the post.

you could even have a look about in bios and see that the machine is seeing everything thats installed, you could try loading optimal values in bios.

you should be getting well over 100 fps (even 200 plus in rfactor) no problems, one thing that is funny is, sometime reducing textures and detail settings and setting to a lower resolution can make you make go slower, as it has to translate to rubbish values. 


[SJ]DieselJC

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Re: FPS Low
« Reply #10 on: November 17, 2008, 11:32:20 pm »
Well I checked my Ram and it says I do have 2GB..dont know anything about bios so I didnt do anything their..looks to be like a new card is in order I guess...not being financially open I am somewhat limited..plus I'm just a cheap ass. so I was looking at these cards..being its on sale. and availible locally.

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=8990425&type=product&id=1218007081476

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=8983745&type=product&id=1218004430629
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[SJ]GT_Raycer

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Re: FPS Low
« Reply #11 on: November 18, 2008, 02:23:17 am »
I can't advise you on the video cards, but I can tell you that your AMD Athlon 64 X2 3800+ runs at 2Ghz. (or should)

I'm also running an older video card, a Visiontek ATI Radeon X1300 w/512MB PCI-E, and 3GB of PC3200 (400Mhz DDR) RAM. Like you, I don't get blistering frame rates, but it's solid enough to run everything I do...RACE07/GTR Evo (hardest on it), GTR2 (slightly better, but still pushes the limits a bit), GTL (Better, but only at DX8...FPS ranges from mid-40s to mid-70s), rFactor (pretty solid with FPS similar to GTL, but in DX9), and iRacing (Surprisingly, the best performer as FPS goes)

Also, I'm only running 1024x768 resolution, mainly because that's as high as my HDTV will support in VGA mode.  (I really need to get the cables for a digital connection to it!   lol )

When I bought my card several years ago, it cost me about $200, so $90-$110 for the nVidea cards you're looking at seems pretty cheap to me.  But, there are members here with INFINITELY more knowledge of video cards than I have, so...Listen to THEM.  ;)

Good luck, JC.   thumbs up

[SJ]DieselJC

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Re: FPS Low
« Reply #12 on: November 18, 2008, 03:01:31 am »
Well I got the new card..the 9500GT..uninstalled old drivers and installed new card/drivers..now I have stutters in rfactor..screen flickers stutters every 10-20 sec..so now I get 100+ Fps but have stuttering..just cant friggin win

[SJ]KL Mallender

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Re: FPS Low
« Reply #13 on: November 18, 2008, 03:21:51 am »
JC, is the stutter only when you are online in server?, if so before you enter server but are in the lobby, click on chat at the top of the page, then disconnect server chat, then enter server of choice, had the same problems as well.

Kevin.

[SJ]DieselJC

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Re: FPS Low
« Reply #14 on: November 18, 2008, 03:42:50 am »
Thanks for the help Kev...much appreciated..and thanx to Ty vis Vent for help with the ini file..we gotta run some VHR Kev..lemme know when I like the watkins set..good job.

JC

[SJ]DieselJC

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Re: FPS Low
« Reply #15 on: November 18, 2008, 05:42:46 pm »
So the new card works great..quiet and smooth..avg 135 FPS in rfactor,GTR2,GTR Evo..around 100 in GTL and Race07..had an issue with stuttering in rfactor..and thought great..more issues..Kevin Mallender came on vent and said try disconnecting from lobby chat before joining a server..so I tried that and it worked..no stutters..Tys was also in and mentioned to change the auto join chat file in the multiplayer INI ..just change the "1" to "0"..you see the servers..your just not joining the chat lobby automatically..you have to manually join the chat lobby wich I dont use really now anyway..great frames with the new card and no stuttering issues..best $110 I've spent. Thanks to all who responded and gave their opinions much appreciated.

JC

[SJ]Pierre61

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Re: FPS Low
« Reply #16 on: November 18, 2008, 06:18:24 pm »
Good to hear JC  thumbs up