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[SJ]CasparGTL

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Re: 1970 World Sports Car Championship 1.00
« Reply #50 on: June 25, 2009, 10:32:42 pm »
Ow, thanks guys!

Tracks:
Sach '67 Great!
Monza67 Great!
Spa '67 Great!
LeMans67 I like, but maybe 77 VLM looks more like the days of 1970.
Sebring12h - regular old track... Great!
Machwerk67 - anyone know of this track, looks quite long... I think to short twists for sportscars, especially the big guns.
Albi67 A bit short I think, nice turns .
Clermont County 1968 - Fantasy track... OK? Haven't driven it yet  :shy:
Elio de Angelis 1975 Haven't driven it yet
Mallory70 Will be busy.... lol
Pau 67 No, I don't think people will have a good time here.
Roskilde Ring62 To short, personal view.  :dunno:

The GP79 tracks are awesome! All of them.
(we had big trouble with Dijon though, race was cancelled) Interlagos gave just me trouble, but some of you would like that.
Zandvoort79........or67 for that matter.

[SJ]RockyC

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Re: 1970 World Sports Car Championship 1.00
« Reply #51 on: June 25, 2009, 10:37:07 pm »
http://www.rfactorcentral.com/detail.cfm?ID=Brands%20Hatch%202005


ok, its better looking Brands, but modern one from 2005.

Maybe this one would suit better to this cars, with slightly older corner radius, but still not 100% accurate as Brands'70 from VirtualLM for F1Challenge was.


Doesn't that have that weird chicane in it, in the corner before the last two? If so, that was the reason why I didn't pick it.

[SJ]Minorshunt

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Re: 1970 World Sports Car Championship 1.00
« Reply #52 on: June 25, 2009, 10:42:35 pm »
Yeah any of the tracks mentioned. I like the CSGT tracks because they seem to be easier on frame rates, and the tarmac seems to grip a little better if that's possible. But since they are Beta I don't know how well they have been sorted for OLR.


[SJ]CasparGTL

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Re: 1970 World Sports Car Championship 1.00
« Reply #53 on: June 25, 2009, 10:46:34 pm »
I like the CSGT tracks because they seem to be easier on frame rates


Ooo, that sounds good for me, Le Mans CSGT it is then, WIP or no WIP  :D

[SJ]Marc Loukas

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Re: 1970 World Sports Car Championship 1.00
« Reply #54 on: June 25, 2009, 10:47:40 pm »
A personal view on things:
http://simjunkies.org/mod-reviews.htm


Already commented on the review page. But really nice Cas.
I am honored  :hats off:

[SJ]JuneBug

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Re: 1970 World Sports Car Championship 1.00
« Reply #55 on: June 25, 2009, 10:48:33 pm »
Why not the CSGT WIP tracks, at least Daytona and Sebring. And if not their Le Mans, then I would rather use VLM Le Mans than the Le Mans 67. Just my opinion. :)

I didn't see a download link, just a progress bar for them  :?:

I believe the Spa version I have is one of theirs... As for Le Mans we can run whichever you guys want, I was just trying to keep the track close to the era of cars.

I was looking at the GP79 tracks too, so Watkins will definitely be in the list... At work guys and heading home in a bit, will read this thread more thoroughly and let you folks know whats shaking  :hats off:

[SJ]Marc Loukas

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Re: 1970 World Sports Car Championship 1.00
« Reply #56 on: June 25, 2009, 10:50:11 pm »
Cool  :)

Big thanks for the effort Tyler. Really apperciated  :)

[SJ]Minorshunt

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Re: 1970 World Sports Car Championship 1.00
« Reply #57 on: June 25, 2009, 10:55:46 pm »
I like the CSGT tracks because they seem to be easier on frame rates


Ooo, that sounds good for me, Le Mans CSGT it is then, WIP or no WIP  :D


Yeap at CSGT Daytona last night with 24 car AI race I had NO stutter at the start with a low of 60fps which climbed to the high 150's when pulling away from the pack.
BTW, in the 910 the fast way round turn 1 coming off the oval is a powerslide/drift. Woohoo! Such as sweet little car. :D

[SJ]Smak DeWahl

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Re: 1970 World Sports Car Championship 1.00
« Reply #58 on: June 25, 2009, 10:59:42 pm »
VLM Rouen Les Essarts 1955 - 70 another good one. (Well, I like it!) :rotfl:

Monza 10k if it's out for rFactor. :D

[SJ]RockyC

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Re: 1970 World Sports Car Championship 1.00
« Reply #59 on: June 25, 2009, 11:01:52 pm »
There are download links for those 3 CSGT tracks. They also came in their Historic Preview Mod v2.5, and the Watkins Glen Historical is also a WIP but it does have a download link. That one is a GPL conversion and I believe this was the layout used in 1970. They changed the track and added the boot for 1971. The GP79 layout has that nasty chicane in the esses, which wouldn't be nice for these cars.

But of course, thank you very much Tyler. I just want to help out as much as I can, since I have been following this mod for so long, about 2 years. :o And I would just love to see the most accurate tracks used. Also, most of those historical tracks you mentioned would be great. Some of them were used in an Interseries for these WSC cars in 1970, for example Albi67.

[SJ]HeatCAN

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Re: 1970 World Sports Car Championship 1.00
« Reply #60 on: June 25, 2009, 11:36:38 pm »
Does anyone have a link to the download for the mod?


[SJ]mixfloors

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Re: 1970 World Sports Car Championship 1.00
« Reply #62 on: June 25, 2009, 11:55:46 pm »
There is an old version of snetterton (as in 60's period) as well that isnt toooooo bad to drive.

Sounds like a series is coming togeather.

Might consideration be given to a (NASJ) Sat night (O/C) Sunday time slot as Mid week would be a very rare appearance for me and any other O/C members to be a part of this wonderful mod/series. I think a few other Aussies might enjoy a Sunday midday/afternoon trip down memory lane if the time slot were more available. Fornightly (min), tri-weekly or monthly in a 1.5-2hr format  with a 2.4hr LM race (for full night) as a suggestion for race format perhaps, while i'm on the "pls consider" trail.....

Will you run only one class S5000 or will S3000 be an option as well ?

As a side note I was testing out the lights at night at LM in a Ferrari 312 (I think) and found it to be a lovely handling car when the trye temps came up with the Matra not far behind from default settings. Wouldnt take much for these cars to be really fun to drive for those less inclined to do battle with the S5000 class set up.  Any one else notice that the tryes tend to over inflate when they come up to temp ? Makes em fast down mullsanne but extra skitterish overall per say.

And did these cars really get airbourne over the hump in mulsanne in real life if they didnt lift ?

Thanks
Mike
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[SJ]Marc Loukas

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Re: 1970 World Sports Car Championship 1.00
« Reply #63 on: June 26, 2009, 12:23:15 am »
Well. By what I've seen from real life footage etc, I think VLM's version of the track has a pretty weird version of the hump. It's too steep imo. I don't recall cars like the GT40 getting airborne. But they usually braked for the corner before the top of the crest, or immediately after it if I'm not mistaken. Even though at first i thought the CSGT version of the track was kinda weird, after a few laps on it with these cars i started thinking that maybe, just maybe, VLM's track might be a little more inaccurate in some spots.(blasphemy! :bang:) lol. The crest on the CSGT version is imo pretty accurate. The climb isn't that steep, but the drop is.

Just an observation  :)

[SJ]HeatCAN

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Re: 1970 World Sports Car Championship 1.00
« Reply #64 on: June 26, 2009, 12:29:40 am »
thanks, Steve.

[SJ]Minorshunt

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Re: 1970 World Sports Car Championship 1.00
« Reply #65 on: June 26, 2009, 12:46:26 am »
Having watched the movie more than a few times, no the cars didn't get airborne. I agree the CSGT version seems more accurate in quite a few places. For one, the haybales are a great touch (especially at Tetre Rouge), and Ford chicanes before the start finish seems more correct. The high speed "alley" running between arnage and porsche curves is terrifying in the CSGT version with the high banks on each side. In the VLM version this is a good overtaking area. In CSGT, it's "please God don't let me die".  lol

Good point about making the series day and start time available to as many as possible Mike.  :yes:




Edit: Try the hard tires Mike. They don't overinflate as much as the softs.
NP HC  :)

edit again: Ahh. I see now. The VLM version is post maison blanche replaced by Porsche curves in 1972.
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[SJ]RockyC

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Re: 1970 World Sports Car Championship 1.00
« Reply #66 on: June 26, 2009, 12:51:37 am »
Yeah, I have found that too Mark. :) A couple of other things I have noticed being weird with the VLM version is going under the Dunlop bridge, and the short run from Tetre Rouge to the Mulsane straight. But I don't know. :)

[SJ]Marc Loukas

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Re: 1970 World Sports Car Championship 1.00
« Reply #67 on: June 26, 2009, 01:02:43 am »
The high speed "alley" running between arnage and porsche curves is terrifying in the CSGT version with the high banks on each side. In the VLM version this is a good overtaking area. In CSGT, it's "please God don't let me die".  lol


Which is pretty much a very accurate representation of what those drivers actually thought on that part of the track lol

Yeah, I have found that too Mark. :) A couple of other things I have noticed being weird with the VLM version is going under the Dunlop bridge, and the short run from Tetre Rouge to the Mulsane straight. But I don't know. :)


Yup, all those little things. I've started to believe that VLM just managed to create a more "Le Mans"-like atmosphere. But the proportions of certain places on the track are a little off to say the least. First off, when i was driving on the CSGT one, the big "Wow!" for me, was the entry into indianapolis. I actually went "wow". It was a feeling of deja vu caused by all the footage i had seen. 8-O

[SJ]JuneBug

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Re: 1970 World Sports Car Championship 1.00
« Reply #68 on: June 26, 2009, 01:50:04 am »
Alright my fellow drivers.  I still do not see links for these ones anywhere:

Daytona 70
LeMan70
Nurburgring70

If you have a link to the one of the tracks above please let me in on it :) Rocky there was only one or two tracks that I could download from your links earlier pointing to rF Central. Some of the progress bars are pretty far to the right so the may have pulled them because the actual release is nearing  :dunno:

I do not mind running on Sunday afternoon what time should we run? 2100 GMT | 1300 PST (1PM) Race start?

90 minute races will be fine by me as well with a 120 min final run :)

Current track list:

Sach '67
Monza67
Spa '67
LeMansVLM
Sebring70
Watkins70 - Beta
Elio de Angelis 1975
Brands 2.0
Paul Ricard 75

We need three or so more tracks I think still  :?:  :yes:

Official race thread and GPCOS are coming  :D

:excited:     :excited:     :excited:

[SJ]Marc Loukas

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Re: 1970 World Sports Car Championship 1.00
« Reply #69 on: June 26, 2009, 02:35:47 am »
Hmmm. The only other way i can think of for downloading the 3 CSGT beta tracks is through downloading the CSGC Holiday Preview  :hmm:

[SJ]JuneBug

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Re: 1970 World Sports Car Championship 1.00
« Reply #70 on: June 26, 2009, 02:40:47 am »
Grabbing it from Central now :)

Thanks for the tip Marc  :hats off:  I think that was posted earlier but I already had CSGT from a long time ago. Then I remembered that was a long time ago  lol

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[SJ]Marc Loukas

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Re: 1970 World Sports Car Championship 1.00
« Reply #71 on: June 26, 2009, 02:51:53 am »
 lol

No prob. Yeah indeed someone posted about if before, can't remember  :hmm:. Tracks should be in there  :)

[SJ]mixfloors

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Re: 1970 World Sports Car Championship 1.00
« Reply #72 on: June 26, 2009, 02:55:20 am »

I do not mind running on Sunday afternoon what time should we run? 2100 GMT | 1300 PST (1PM) Race start?

90 minute races will be fine by me as well with a 120 min final run :)



Sat night US = Sunday afternoon Aus time wise  Junebug
ie The time of your GTL races's last season were about 12-2pm Sunday here in Aus depending on when daylight saving comes into play, but I am not sure how that will play out for our UK/Euro drivers, however whatever suits the majority of drivers is best for the club.
Maybe a slightly later (just a bit) US time slot will allow an early morning Euro time a later afternoon Aus start and early evening start for NZ based drivers.

Does someone have the beta 1970 LM track available, as it seems some of you have driven it, or am I reading the thread comments wrong and you have only viewed a trailer of it or something ?

EDIT just read the above posts and understand now :D

[SJ]KL Mallender

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Re: 1970 World Sports Car Championship 1.00
« Reply #73 on: June 26, 2009, 03:12:33 am »
I have LM70 for GTR1 and Rfactor, neither mod included a track pack, I've "Modded" '70 car files for use at Daytona/Talledega(to allow camber and springs necessary for ovals) and one set of "equalized" hdv files along with eng files that will put some hair on your chest(high 260's in the draft, low 250's alone) spent a lot of fun time with LM70, but in this latest version,I believe the physics for the "big boys" has gone off the deep end, not one video I've ever seen shows these cars as squirrely as they are now, I may very well change into different car for our races, 917's are just too uncontrollable  :grr: can go quicker around Lemans with Lola than Porsche, goofy :dunno:

Kevin.

[SJ]Minorshunt

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Re: 1970 World Sports Car Championship 1.00
« Reply #74 on: June 26, 2009, 03:29:40 am »
I hear ya Kevin. It's really tough to string together a bunch of semi-clean laps in these 5000's. Tough to even enter a corner on the correct side with the brakes pulling to the right so hard. In an OLR, I think Lemans would be strewn end to end with pieces of burning Porsches and Ferraris within 5 laps.  lol

Ummm Saturday night US time would interfere with the upcoming NASJ-GTL/P&G season wouldn't it Tyler?
Also there is a NASJ-STCC race on Sunday afternoons US time for at least one more week. After that  :dunno: