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[SJ]Andy Fuller

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Here comes the IRL of F1
« on: June 19, 2009, 12:50:01 am »
Fota has finally given the  phwoar :punk: to Bernie and Mosley and now F1 is going to be alot of no name teams and Williams. The 8 current Fota meambers are setting up a rival championship. Bernie is going to sue the hell out of them, who knows where they are going to race (hey, Silverstone is going be open!). Maybe us north american guys will get a race or two, but shit, it will not be F1. This scares me because we all remember the CART/IRL war, this reminds me alot of it.
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[SJ]ski9600

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Re: Here comes the IRL of F1
« Reply #1 on: June 19, 2009, 02:21:36 am »
I wonder what the track contracts say.  They may say that they can't hold a race for competing series.  Then we'd get a bunch of new tracks like Brno, Brands, Mugello, Magny, Silverstone, maybe Montreal, and one in the US like Road America!   :excited:

[SJ]Jarkko Rantajoki

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Re: Here comes the IRL of F1
« Reply #2 on: June 19, 2009, 02:37:28 am »
As it stands, F1 will be no more the ultimate series.. Im bit scared, but at the same time pretty excited about it.. all i can do is hope, the finns will be racing in an interesting series.

[SJ]Jarkko Rantajoki

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Re: Here comes the IRL of F1
« Reply #3 on: June 19, 2009, 02:40:13 am »
Oh, FIA still has tiny bit of time to back off, and let the teams have it their way btw.. If that happens everything can change again.

[SJ]Stein

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Re: Here comes the IRL of F1
« Reply #4 on: June 19, 2009, 04:06:44 am »
ehr.. here's the story that backing this discussion (i think)


http://www.tsn.ca/auto_racing/story/?id=282267

[SJ]DRokK

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Re: Here comes the IRL of F1
« Reply #5 on: June 19, 2009, 07:55:33 am »
Bloody ell! i just hope i get to see some racing at my beautiful (and local!) Donington  :grr:

[SJ]Fleischi

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Re: Here comes the IRL of F1
« Reply #6 on: June 19, 2009, 08:05:40 am »
hehehehe

Well, we will see lots of races. F1 with new teams and PS ( PirateSeries or so lol ). think the PS got the better teams and drivers. Sponsors stay behind this plans :D 

however, bad day for the F1 sport but good day for the fans. prices to watch the races live will be cheaper :excited: :excited: :excited:

[SJ]Krister Larsson

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Re: Here comes the IRL of F1
« Reply #7 on: June 19, 2009, 06:34:11 pm »
I think it all will end up in yet another season with current F1 teams and regulations and Max Mosley leaving (get sacked from) his position at FIA.  ;)

[SJ]Kristof Huyck

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Re: Here comes the IRL of F1
« Reply #8 on: June 19, 2009, 06:41:11 pm »
Ecclestone & Mosley should both retire as it's clear they are too old and senile for this bussiness.

[SJ]Krister Larsson

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Re: Here comes the IRL of F1
« Reply #9 on: June 19, 2009, 06:44:03 pm »
Ecclestone & Mosley should both retire as it's clear they are too old and senile for this bussiness.


Given their age they should have retired several years ago....

[SJ]MBMAC

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Re: Here comes the IRL of F1
« Reply #10 on: June 19, 2009, 06:56:15 pm »
brilliant news....dump that wee dwarf ecclestone and leave mosley tied to a pole at silverstone for pissed of fans to throw boulders, bricks and the odd tyre or two at him.

hmmm.... on second thought he may enjoy that  lol

i hope they do break away...it's the best teams that are up for it.

oh now the dwarf wanna sue them all...laughable  lol

come on FOTA kik his ASS  :getmecoat:

[SJ]Krister Larsson

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Re: Here comes the IRL of F1
« Reply #11 on: June 19, 2009, 06:59:55 pm »
and leave mosley tied to a pole at silverstone for pissed of fans to throw boulders, bricks and the odd tyre or two at him.

hmmm.... on second thought he may enjoy that  lol


 :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

[SJ]Krister Larsson

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Re: Here comes the IRL of F1
« Reply #12 on: June 19, 2009, 07:10:12 pm »
Seriously I think Bernie will still be there and Max taking the back door exit. Bernie has a too deep commercial interest having bought the F1 commercial rights for a period of 100 years to have this slip out of his hands.
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[SJ]Byron

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Re: Here comes the IRL of F1
« Reply #13 on: June 19, 2009, 07:35:09 pm »
Hey Pete, this might be a good time for Team Portly to make that move into F1.

 :D

[SJ]Stein

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Re: Here comes the IRL of F1
« Reply #14 on: June 19, 2009, 10:13:18 pm »
Hey Pete, this might be a good time for Team Portly to make that move into F1.

 :D


yeah... you only need an appetite of 45 million pies to join in?





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[SJ]Jarkko Rantajoki

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Re: Here comes the IRL of F1
« Reply #15 on: June 20, 2009, 12:38:18 am »
In fact it starts to look like the new series is going to happen.. Raikkonen mentioned that about nothing will change, but most likely teams will run 3 cars in the series.
I think the teams planning the series allready are very determined, it means a big deal to them tbh.. a huge thing and propably quite bit more appealing than continuing with FIA..
and because there are so many teams behind this, its very hard to see them dropping it.. The more i think about the new series.. the more i wanna see it happen!

[SJ]Kristof Huyck

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Re: Here comes the IRL of F1
« Reply #16 on: June 20, 2009, 07:54:45 am »
It's sad to have a breakaway series, but thruth is that the FIA is leaded by the same people for so many years and that those people so badly want to remain their power and push trough their own ideas that it's becoming very annoying. So it's time for a change, which apparantly is not possible from within the FIA, so then it has to be without the FIA  :)

The idea of running 3 cars a team is interesting, maybe they could agree that one of the drivers needs to be a 'rookie' (driver with a max. amount of X race starts)

[SJ]ski9600

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Re: Here comes the IRL of F1
« Reply #17 on: June 21, 2009, 03:40:23 am »
I think it all will end up in yet another season with current F1 teams and regulations and Max Mosley leaving (get sacked from) his position at FIA.  ;)


Yes, I think it won't end up as it did in the US.  Can't Bertelsmann com in and replace Bernie?  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bertelsmann  The wiki makes no mention of F1, but I thought they had a controlling interest.  Maybe I'm wrong.

Cheers,
Ski

[SJ]Jarkko Rantajoki

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Re: Here comes the IRL of F1
« Reply #18 on: June 21, 2009, 02:18:22 pm »
Heres a funny fact:

If the teams make their own series, FIA has no option but to help run the series (its some deal with european comission apparently, that FIA has to offer to do that with any new starting series if they are asked to).. in a rather large degree also.. :D

[SJ]Fleischi

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Re: Here comes the IRL of F1
« Reply #19 on: June 21, 2009, 03:14:22 pm »
yup and this guy want to run it ( who doesn´t want to play little Ernie & Max lol :rotfl: :rotfl: )


[SJ]Jarkko Rantajoki

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Re: Here comes the IRL of F1
« Reply #20 on: June 24, 2009, 12:48:13 pm »
Well, No second series.. F1 will live on.. and we get rid of Max Mosley in few months.. So.. kinda good news i guess..

[SJ]Stein

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Re: Here comes the IRL of F1
« Reply #21 on: June 24, 2009, 02:22:54 pm »
and the midget will commit suicide?      Bernie you say his name is?


i'd call him "continues bad hair day" if it were upto me..

any links to the news then jarkks.. as always .. i'm too lazy to search and i dont think you got this outtof listening to your coffeemug

Woof ~ Woof

i think he got teased alot and that's why he wants to stay on as "the spoilt brat"


[SJ]HeatCAN

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Re: Here comes the IRL of F1
« Reply #22 on: June 24, 2009, 03:03:50 pm »
Steiny, here's one place, my friend...

http://formula-one.speedtv.com/f1/

[SJ]Stein

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Re: Here comes the IRL of F1
« Reply #23 on: June 24, 2009, 05:21:14 pm »
 :twit: sir

[SJ]Krister Larsson

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Re: Here comes the IRL of F1
« Reply #24 on: June 24, 2009, 06:01:44 pm »
From the swedish press it looks like peace is back and the teams are now in for next season. It seems like there will be a limit on team spending based on some passed years spendings. And Max Mosley have announced he will not be on the list of candidates for FIA president at the next election (that is what I called "taking the back door exit" earlier).  :yes:

[SJ]Jarkko Rantajoki

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Re: Here comes the IRL of F1
« Reply #25 on: June 25, 2009, 12:00:37 pm »
any links to the news then jarkks.. as always .. i'm too lazy to search and i dont think you got this outtof listening to your coffeemug


Anyone interested enough should have autosport in their bookmarks.. ;)

[SJ]Stein

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Re: Here comes the IRL of F1
« Reply #26 on: June 25, 2009, 04:37:52 pm »
any links to the news then jarkks.. as always .. i'm too lazy to search and i dont think you got this outtof listening to your coffeemug


Anyone interested enough should have autosport in their bookmarks.. ;)



Bored enough you mean...



Woof ~ Woof


there was nothing on the forum to read... and not that it's the most bloody interesting news i've heard in ages or something?!  8-O

[SJ]Kristof Huyck

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Re: Here comes the IRL of F1
« Reply #27 on: June 25, 2009, 04:56:38 pm »
any links to the news then jarkks.. as always .. i'm too lazy to search and i dont think you got this outtof listening to your coffeemug


Anyone interested enough should have autosport in their bookmarks.. ;)



Bored enough you mean...



Woof ~ Woof


there was nothing on the forum to read... and not that it's the most bloody interesting news i've heard in ages or something?!  8-O


Autosport is not only bringing F1 news, but also MotoGP, Le Mans (series), FIA GT, WRC, F3, WTCC, ...
So if you like autosports in general (+motogp) it's a nice website

[SJ]ski9600

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Here comes the IRL of F1 for real this time!
« Reply #28 on: June 26, 2009, 12:27:56 am »
Sounds like the split is on again!  :rotfl:


http://www.racer.com/2009/06/mosley-rethinks-future-over-fota-claims/


Formula 1’s future has been thrown into turmoil once again, with FIA president Max Mosley saying he is now keeping his future options open because of what he has called “deliberate attempts” by teams to mislead the media.

Just 24 hours after Mosley reached a deal with FOTA to end the threat of a breakaway series, he has reacted angrily to what he calls “false claims” made by the Formula One Teams’ Association (FOTA) about the nature of their agreement.

In a letter that Mosley sent to FOTA chairman Luca di Montezemolo, which first appeared on website www.racefax.com but has now been seen by AUTOSPORT, Mosley makes it clear that he is angry at how FOTA has presented the terms of its deal. And such is his seriousness with which he is treating the matter, that he has told FOTA that his original plan to step down as FIA president in October is no longer definite.

“Given your and FOTA’s deliberate attempt to mislead the media, I now consider my options open,” wrote Mosley in the letter. “At least until October, I am president of the FIA with the full authority of that office.

“After that it is the FIA member clubs, not you or FOTA, who will decide on the future leadership of the FIA.”

Mosley is furious that FOTA representatives have claimed that FIA Senate president Michel Boeri is now in change of F1, that he himself was forced out of office and that he would have no role in the FIA once he steps down in October.

“We made a deal yesterday in Paris to end the recent difficulties in Formula 1,” explained Mosley. “A fundamental part of this was that we would both present a positive and truthful account to the media.

“I was therefore astonished to learn that FOTA has been briefing the press that Mr. Boeri has taken charge of Formula 1, something which you know is completely untrue; that I had been forced out of office, also false; and, apparently, that I would have no role in the FIA after October, something which is plain nonsense, if only because of the FIA statutes.

“Furthermore, you have suggested to the media that I was a “dictator,” an accusation which is grossly insulting to the 26 members of the World Motor Sport Council who have discussed and voted all the rules and procedures of Formula 1 since the 1980s, not to mention the representatives of the FIA’s 122 countries who have democratically endorsed everything I and my World Motor Sport Council colleagues have done during the last 18 years.”

The letter makes it clear that unless FOTA moves to address his complaints, then the deal that was agreed on Wednesday could collapse. The letter was sent prior to Thursday’s FOTA press conference in Bologna, where Mosley had hoped an apology would be made — something which was not forthcoming.

Mosley said: “If you wish the agreement we made to have any chance of survival, you and FOTA must immediately rectify your actions. You must correct the false statements which have been made and make no further such statements.

“You yourself must issue a suitable correction and apology at your press conference this afternoon.

“Formula 1 is run entirely by our 25-strong team without any help from me or any other outsider. There was no need for me to involve myself further in Formula 1 once we had a settlement. Equally, I had a long-standing plan not to seek re-election in October. It was therefore possible for me to confirm both points to you yesterday.”   :P

[SJ]Jarkko Rantajoki

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Re: Here comes the IRL of F1
« Reply #29 on: June 26, 2009, 04:43:38 am »

Autosport is not only bringing F1 news, but also MotoGP, Le Mans (series), FIA GT, WRC, F3, WTCC, ...
So if you like autosports in general (+motogp) it's a nice website


Indeed.. Ive been planning the yearly subscription for a while now.. i will get it at some point no doubt.

[SJ]Andy Fuller

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Re: Here comes the IRL of F1
« Reply #30 on: June 26, 2009, 05:00:33 am »
Can anyone tell me the address of Mosley so I can cut the brake lines on all his cars. This guy needs to be gotten rid of, he gets a bruised ego then runs around talking about how he will get back at the teams. I do think the teams were kinda dicks in the way they handled things, but Mosley will punish everybody with him being president again just to punk the few people who talked crap.

Maybe I should register maxmosleysucks.com, get alot of press just saying how much he sucks, then he will get all butt-hurt from me, run over here, sue the hell out of me, AND LEAVE F1 THE F*CK ALONE!

[SJ]Fleischi

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Re: Here comes the IRL of F1
« Reply #31 on: June 26, 2009, 08:23:31 am »
 :hmm: however, Max done good jobs in the past, finally he done a good job now and what the FOTA do is just a shame. saying something like that after an agreement is realy poor. during the last years the teams showed what happens if they think they can beat rules or maybe create rules and so i think Max and Bernie done gr8 jobs. lots of teams and then the interests from the FIA isn´t easy to fix in contracts. well, i wasn´t happy about all rules but finally we got a good season this year ( best since few years from my point of view ).

i realy want to see how the old teams help the new teams if they change there minds faster as they can drive, :toast: FOTA lol :rotfl:

[SJ]Kristof Huyck

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Re: Here comes the IRL of F1
« Reply #32 on: June 26, 2009, 09:23:05 am »
I'm sorry Fleischi, but Max just isn't doing anything positive the last years for F1 imo He should have resigned after the nazi sex scandal.

http://www.planetf1.com/story/0,18954,3213_5400873,00.html

You remember those fan survey's by the FIA... Nothing was done with them with Max the dictator as FIA president, it would be already a positive thing when this would change  :)

[SJ]Fleischi

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Re: Here comes the IRL of F1
« Reply #33 on: June 26, 2009, 04:44:50 pm »
well, can´t rmemeber alll shitt from all teams but few teams shouldn´t race in F1 then to :tut: However, if u think the good stuff from the last years was created by the teams but rules been def from FIA. well, they can´t suit all teams but they done good jobs. better then some others could do ;)

EDIT: i don´t mean the Nazi sex scandal was ok 
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[SJ]Kristof Huyck

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Re: Here comes the IRL of F1
« Reply #34 on: June 26, 2009, 05:55:00 pm »
well, can´t rmemeber alll shitt from all teams but few teams shouldn´t race in F1 then to :tut: However, if u think the good stuff from the last years was created by the teams but rules been def from FIA. well, they can´t suit all teams but they done good jobs. better then some others could do ;)

EDIT: i don´t mean the Nazi sex scandal was ok 


For instance the tracks... none of the new ones is interesting imo, aside Instanbul (for it's track layout). But they are happy to pay for having a F1 GP, and that's what Max & Bernie are after: money and power. Another nice example was the fact that Mr. Ecclestone bought the Istanbul track and decided not the allow a MotoGP race on the track.
The fact that Istanbul GP attracted almost no visitors while the Britsh GP was sold out says enough where F1 really lives btw.
Also the fact that there is no North American GP on the current calendar is a bad thing which is caused by Bernie.



[SJ]Fleischi

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Re: Here comes the IRL of F1
« Reply #35 on: June 26, 2009, 06:18:01 pm »
well, finally the prob is still that overtaking is damm hard. just like all teams say, if u want to pass u risk a crash and it cost time. what track could fix that? no other tracks ;) the new rules doesn´t fixed it well to. Istanblu for Moto GP ( bit off topic from my point of view for F1 thread ) is still to danger. Well, all drivers want to race there but i doesn´t want to see this guys in Istanbul and finally Moto GP got not enough money to race there. They can race if they pay enough ;) USA and F1 was still a sad storry in the past. Teams want different tyres, Michelin and Bridgestone and we have seen how noobish this was. Lots of visitors and 6 cars on track, whoooohooooo :twit:

however, i´m getting sick to read that Max is Mad Max which isn´t 100% true, teams moanded, FIA changes rules to suit the most teams and then other moans and FIA have to change rules again. i can only say, i was getting bored with F1 at the end of the nineties but the last years was getting a bit better. This season is realy a gr8 season, nice good fights at the top and at the back, what else is needed more??? lol

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Re: Here comes the IRL of F1
« Reply #36 on: July 24, 2009, 04:57:09 am »
Yeah I'm still around...you say the first post COULD be Simjunkies, but this is why I left:  I didn't get any complaints or anything, but maybe it's just me being cynical :/

The worst rally corner ever?

Edit: How's that happen? :hmm:  I was going to post in a completely different topic. :?:
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