Author Topic: Here comes the IRL of F1  (Read 4689 times)

[SJ]Jarkko Rantajoki

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Re: Here comes the IRL of F1
« Reply #25 on: June 25, 2009, 12:00:37 pm »
any links to the news then jarkks.. as always .. i'm too lazy to search and i dont think you got this outtof listening to your coffeemug


Anyone interested enough should have autosport in their bookmarks.. ;)

[SJ]Stein

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Re: Here comes the IRL of F1
« Reply #26 on: June 25, 2009, 04:37:52 pm »
any links to the news then jarkks.. as always .. i'm too lazy to search and i dont think you got this outtof listening to your coffeemug


Anyone interested enough should have autosport in their bookmarks.. ;)



Bored enough you mean...



Woof ~ Woof


there was nothing on the forum to read... and not that it's the most bloody interesting news i've heard in ages or something?!  8-O

[SJ]Kristof Huyck

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Re: Here comes the IRL of F1
« Reply #27 on: June 25, 2009, 04:56:38 pm »
any links to the news then jarkks.. as always .. i'm too lazy to search and i dont think you got this outtof listening to your coffeemug


Anyone interested enough should have autosport in their bookmarks.. ;)



Bored enough you mean...



Woof ~ Woof


there was nothing on the forum to read... and not that it's the most bloody interesting news i've heard in ages or something?!  8-O


Autosport is not only bringing F1 news, but also MotoGP, Le Mans (series), FIA GT, WRC, F3, WTCC, ...
So if you like autosports in general (+motogp) it's a nice website

[SJ]ski9600

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Here comes the IRL of F1 for real this time!
« Reply #28 on: June 26, 2009, 12:27:56 am »
Sounds like the split is on again!  :rotfl:


http://www.racer.com/2009/06/mosley-rethinks-future-over-fota-claims/


Formula 1’s future has been thrown into turmoil once again, with FIA president Max Mosley saying he is now keeping his future options open because of what he has called “deliberate attempts” by teams to mislead the media.

Just 24 hours after Mosley reached a deal with FOTA to end the threat of a breakaway series, he has reacted angrily to what he calls “false claims” made by the Formula One Teams’ Association (FOTA) about the nature of their agreement.

In a letter that Mosley sent to FOTA chairman Luca di Montezemolo, which first appeared on website www.racefax.com but has now been seen by AUTOSPORT, Mosley makes it clear that he is angry at how FOTA has presented the terms of its deal. And such is his seriousness with which he is treating the matter, that he has told FOTA that his original plan to step down as FIA president in October is no longer definite.

“Given your and FOTA’s deliberate attempt to mislead the media, I now consider my options open,” wrote Mosley in the letter. “At least until October, I am president of the FIA with the full authority of that office.

“After that it is the FIA member clubs, not you or FOTA, who will decide on the future leadership of the FIA.”

Mosley is furious that FOTA representatives have claimed that FIA Senate president Michel Boeri is now in change of F1, that he himself was forced out of office and that he would have no role in the FIA once he steps down in October.

“We made a deal yesterday in Paris to end the recent difficulties in Formula 1,” explained Mosley. “A fundamental part of this was that we would both present a positive and truthful account to the media.

“I was therefore astonished to learn that FOTA has been briefing the press that Mr. Boeri has taken charge of Formula 1, something which you know is completely untrue; that I had been forced out of office, also false; and, apparently, that I would have no role in the FIA after October, something which is plain nonsense, if only because of the FIA statutes.

“Furthermore, you have suggested to the media that I was a “dictator,” an accusation which is grossly insulting to the 26 members of the World Motor Sport Council who have discussed and voted all the rules and procedures of Formula 1 since the 1980s, not to mention the representatives of the FIA’s 122 countries who have democratically endorsed everything I and my World Motor Sport Council colleagues have done during the last 18 years.”

The letter makes it clear that unless FOTA moves to address his complaints, then the deal that was agreed on Wednesday could collapse. The letter was sent prior to Thursday’s FOTA press conference in Bologna, where Mosley had hoped an apology would be made — something which was not forthcoming.

Mosley said: “If you wish the agreement we made to have any chance of survival, you and FOTA must immediately rectify your actions. You must correct the false statements which have been made and make no further such statements.

“You yourself must issue a suitable correction and apology at your press conference this afternoon.

“Formula 1 is run entirely by our 25-strong team without any help from me or any other outsider. There was no need for me to involve myself further in Formula 1 once we had a settlement. Equally, I had a long-standing plan not to seek re-election in October. It was therefore possible for me to confirm both points to you yesterday.”   :P

[SJ]Jarkko Rantajoki

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Re: Here comes the IRL of F1
« Reply #29 on: June 26, 2009, 04:43:38 am »

Autosport is not only bringing F1 news, but also MotoGP, Le Mans (series), FIA GT, WRC, F3, WTCC, ...
So if you like autosports in general (+motogp) it's a nice website


Indeed.. Ive been planning the yearly subscription for a while now.. i will get it at some point no doubt.

[SJ]Andy Fuller

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Re: Here comes the IRL of F1
« Reply #30 on: June 26, 2009, 05:00:33 am »
Can anyone tell me the address of Mosley so I can cut the brake lines on all his cars. This guy needs to be gotten rid of, he gets a bruised ego then runs around talking about how he will get back at the teams. I do think the teams were kinda dicks in the way they handled things, but Mosley will punish everybody with him being president again just to punk the few people who talked crap.

Maybe I should register maxmosleysucks.com, get alot of press just saying how much he sucks, then he will get all butt-hurt from me, run over here, sue the hell out of me, AND LEAVE F1 THE F*CK ALONE!

[SJ]Fleischi

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Re: Here comes the IRL of F1
« Reply #31 on: June 26, 2009, 08:23:31 am »
 :hmm: however, Max done good jobs in the past, finally he done a good job now and what the FOTA do is just a shame. saying something like that after an agreement is realy poor. during the last years the teams showed what happens if they think they can beat rules or maybe create rules and so i think Max and Bernie done gr8 jobs. lots of teams and then the interests from the FIA isn´t easy to fix in contracts. well, i wasn´t happy about all rules but finally we got a good season this year ( best since few years from my point of view ).

i realy want to see how the old teams help the new teams if they change there minds faster as they can drive, :toast: FOTA lol :rotfl:

[SJ]Kristof Huyck

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Re: Here comes the IRL of F1
« Reply #32 on: June 26, 2009, 09:23:05 am »
I'm sorry Fleischi, but Max just isn't doing anything positive the last years for F1 imo He should have resigned after the nazi sex scandal.

http://www.planetf1.com/story/0,18954,3213_5400873,00.html

You remember those fan survey's by the FIA... Nothing was done with them with Max the dictator as FIA president, it would be already a positive thing when this would change  :)

[SJ]Fleischi

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Re: Here comes the IRL of F1
« Reply #33 on: June 26, 2009, 04:44:50 pm »
well, can´t rmemeber alll shitt from all teams but few teams shouldn´t race in F1 then to :tut: However, if u think the good stuff from the last years was created by the teams but rules been def from FIA. well, they can´t suit all teams but they done good jobs. better then some others could do ;)

EDIT: i don´t mean the Nazi sex scandal was ok 
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[SJ]Kristof Huyck

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Re: Here comes the IRL of F1
« Reply #34 on: June 26, 2009, 05:55:00 pm »
well, can´t rmemeber alll shitt from all teams but few teams shouldn´t race in F1 then to :tut: However, if u think the good stuff from the last years was created by the teams but rules been def from FIA. well, they can´t suit all teams but they done good jobs. better then some others could do ;)

EDIT: i don´t mean the Nazi sex scandal was ok 


For instance the tracks... none of the new ones is interesting imo, aside Instanbul (for it's track layout). But they are happy to pay for having a F1 GP, and that's what Max & Bernie are after: money and power. Another nice example was the fact that Mr. Ecclestone bought the Istanbul track and decided not the allow a MotoGP race on the track.
The fact that Istanbul GP attracted almost no visitors while the Britsh GP was sold out says enough where F1 really lives btw.
Also the fact that there is no North American GP on the current calendar is a bad thing which is caused by Bernie.



[SJ]Fleischi

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Re: Here comes the IRL of F1
« Reply #35 on: June 26, 2009, 06:18:01 pm »
well, finally the prob is still that overtaking is damm hard. just like all teams say, if u want to pass u risk a crash and it cost time. what track could fix that? no other tracks ;) the new rules doesn´t fixed it well to. Istanblu for Moto GP ( bit off topic from my point of view for F1 thread ) is still to danger. Well, all drivers want to race there but i doesn´t want to see this guys in Istanbul and finally Moto GP got not enough money to race there. They can race if they pay enough ;) USA and F1 was still a sad storry in the past. Teams want different tyres, Michelin and Bridgestone and we have seen how noobish this was. Lots of visitors and 6 cars on track, whoooohooooo :twit:

however, i´m getting sick to read that Max is Mad Max which isn´t 100% true, teams moanded, FIA changes rules to suit the most teams and then other moans and FIA have to change rules again. i can only say, i was getting bored with F1 at the end of the nineties but the last years was getting a bit better. This season is realy a gr8 season, nice good fights at the top and at the back, what else is needed more??? lol

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Re: Here comes the IRL of F1
« Reply #36 on: July 24, 2009, 04:57:09 am »
Yeah I'm still around...you say the first post COULD be Simjunkies, but this is why I left:  I didn't get any complaints or anything, but maybe it's just me being cynical :/

The worst rally corner ever?

Edit: How's that happen? :hmm:  I was going to post in a completely different topic. :?:
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