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[SJ]Sh1te R1der

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Re: Formula 1 2009 Melbourne
« Reply #25 on: March 28, 2009, 09:28:06 am »
Absolutely fantastic!
How long has it been since the season started without McLaren and Ferrari slugging it out for the top 4 places?  The performance of the Brawn Mercedes is simply the physical manifestation of the genius of Ross Brawn; he has closed out the front row with a car that had not even been tested until last week.  Williams looked very good as well, but I do not think the car is far ahead as it seemed yesterday, as they ran light fuel loads in free practice, and have been eclipsed once the other cars were running similar fuel loads.

Ferrari and McLaren are both struggling for pace, but of the two, the Ferrari is certainly the superior machine.  McLaren are nowhere, and the on-board footage clearly showed the lack of grip, with both Hamilton and Kovalainen struggling to drive out of the corners; gearbox ssues will place Hamilton at the back, which should make for some interesting footage.  The Ferrari does not look particularly settled when pushed hard, and clearly could not live with the "diffuser" cars, but should be there or thereabouts when the chequers drop. 

It should not be overlooked that Vettel's Newey designed Red Bull is right in the mix, regardless of any perceived advantage that may be obtained from the design of the other cars.  In my opinion, Newey is the most gifted car designer in F1 today, and with the Renault engine providing plenty of oomph, I fancy Vettel for both the win, and as a championship dark-horse as well.   A KERS-less Kubica also did a great job to get the BMW on the second row.

So what does everybody think about the diffuser issue; for what it's worth, I think that they will be deemed as legal, for the following reasons.  The fact that three completely separate teams have designed their cars in a similar fashion would suggest that the lawyers at Williams, Toyota and Brawn have individually interpreted the FIA regulations regarding the diffuser design in the same way.  Given that F1 is such a massive business, the lawyers employed by the teams are clearly not going to be mugs; it is possible that one team's lawyers might interpret the rules incorrectly on the odd occasion, but I think it highly unlikely that three top-ranked legal teams would make the same mistake. 

The nature of the protest by the other teams should also be considered; rather than just claiming the diffuser design is illegal, the other teams have claimed that if it is not deemed illegal, the interpretation of the rules by Williams, Brawn and Toyota goes against the "spirit" of the regulations.  As someone who spends a considerable amount of time involved in litigation, I am always pleased to see the "morality" argument trotted out, as it betrays an underlying weakness in the opposition's case.

As for the look of the cars, they look to me like early 90's throwbacks, and I love 'em!  For sure some look better than others; the colour scheme on the Williams is sympathetic to the over-sized design of the front wings, and is my current favorite.  The Ferrari side pods, leading up to the exhaust outlets, is also sex on wheels!

I LOVE F1!  :excited:   

     


[SJ]Kristof Huyck

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Re: Formula 1 2009 Melbourne
« Reply #26 on: March 28, 2009, 12:21:54 pm »
It gets even better:
- Toyota's have been disqualified as they feature a flexibile rear wing
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/74008
- Williams filed a complaint against Ferrari & Red Bull
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/74012

The FIA has also published a list of each car's race-start weight and only Glock's Toyota (which however is DQ'd) was heavier than both Brawn's cars, while Kubica was running significant lighter.

[SJ]Sh1te R1der

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Re: Formula 1 2009 Melbourne
« Reply #27 on: March 28, 2009, 01:04:34 pm »
Some interesting developments, Kris.  Was always going to be some controversy, while the boundaries of the new regulations are explored, but this exceeds my expectations... fascinating stuff.  Toyota bang to rights, but very interested to see how the Ferrari/Red Bull matter evolves.

The FIA has also published a list of each car's race-start weight and only Glock's Toyota (which however is DQ'd) was heavier than both Brawn's cars, while Kubica was running significant lighter.

Clearly, the Brawn is a real contender, which is just what F1 needed; going to make for a superb season.

[SJ]Jarkko Rantajoki

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Re: Formula 1 2009 Melbourne
« Reply #28 on: March 28, 2009, 01:52:07 pm »
hehe, i wish it was tomorrow morning allready!

I think the diffusor is nothing to argue about, thumbs up for those smart enough to take full advantage of the rules, thumbs down for the crybabies who didnt think it themselves.

[SJ]Jarkko Rantajoki

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Re: Formula 1 2009 Melbourne
« Reply #29 on: March 28, 2009, 02:03:24 pm »
Looks like Williams have pulled their protest.. Oh and they (FIA and bridgestone) have brought on purpose tires that arent exactly optimal for the track.. to see more action!  lol

EDIT:Oh yeah... whyyyyyyyyyyyy oh why did they hire Martin Brundle? I hate him he sucks!
(one of my main irritations with the ITV coverage...)
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[SJ]Sh1te R1der

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Re: Formula 1 2009 Melbourne
« Reply #30 on: March 28, 2009, 02:53:41 pm »
Brundle I can just about live with, but I simply cannot abide Ted "Kravitz".  However, I rejoice at the fact that Louise Goodman will no longer be thrusting her elderly, baggy tits into the faces of the drivers; she always stood waaaay too close to her interviewees in my book! 

Re: the diffusers; I would imagine that all leave has been cancelled in the workshops of Ferrari, McLaren, Red Bull and so on!

So, what about predictions?
Here's mine: if the Brawn's are reliable, they will win, but I reckon the lack of testing may be an issue.  I predict victory for Vettel, from Kubica and Raikkonen, although I wouldn't put money on it. Truth is, I'm outside of the normal McLaren/Ferrari comfort zone, and don't have a clue, which is great!  :dunno: :excited:

[SJ]TheChamp

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Re: Formula 1 2009 Melbourne
« Reply #31 on: March 28, 2009, 03:04:09 pm »
I love the BBC coverage, much better than what we get here in The Netherlands (for qualy that is, we'll see tomorrow if they do the race preview better than what I'm used to too). Switched to RTL7 for a few minutes and got tired of listing to 'Olly' almost instantly.

If Brawn GP is reliable, I'm sure they can keep this form up for at least the first couple of races. I don't dare to say anything about the rest, it's so close. It can be an awesome race tomorrow.

[SJ]CasparGTL

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Re: Formula 1 2009 Melbourne
« Reply #32 on: March 28, 2009, 03:37:07 pm »
Good call, BBC it will be!

Awesome adventure start of season.
I wish Jens and Rubinho all the luck in the world.

[SJ]Stein

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Re: Formula 1 2009 Melbourne
« Reply #33 on: March 28, 2009, 03:40:53 pm »
Since i just read up on your ventures in the hunt for the best watchable F1 anywhere in the world i ask you this:


What time GMT does the damned race start!?    (yes.. too lazy to google it as you all know it)




Woof ~ Woof


[SJ]Gooseman

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Re: Formula 1 2009 Melbourne
« Reply #34 on: March 28, 2009, 03:46:18 pm »
I want to say 6:00am gmt. But don't hold me to it.  :innocent:

[SJ]Kristof Huyck

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Re: Formula 1 2009 Melbourne
« Reply #35 on: March 28, 2009, 04:44:34 pm »
Since i just read up on your ventures in the hunt for the best watchable F1 anywhere in the world i ask you this:


What time GMT does the damned race start!?    (yes.. too lazy to google it as you all know it)




Woof ~ Woof




Race start is at 8:00 CET (which is your local time eh) I think, but with the daylight saving time thing I'm not 100% sure... they should really get rid of this stupid daylight saving system.

[SJ]RockyC

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Re: Formula 1 2009 Melbourne
« Reply #36 on: March 28, 2009, 05:34:33 pm »
I want to say 6:00am gmt. But don't hold me to it.  :innocent:


I believe that is correct, Abe. About 12.5 hours from now. :)

I can't wait!!!  :excited:

[SJ]HeatCAN

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Re: Formula 1 2009 Melbourne
« Reply #37 on: March 28, 2009, 05:41:50 pm »
Wooo Woooo!!!!  F1 Season is finally here!!

[SJ]Peter Enqvist

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Re: Formula 1 2009 Melbourne
« Reply #38 on: March 28, 2009, 07:58:35 pm »
definitely nice to see some teams other than Ferrari and McLaren at the top of the grid.  It's even better to see the lap times so close all the way down the grid.  I'd love to see some new race winners this season.  There's some that I think deserve a win.  None more than Heidfeld.  Rosberg, Webber, and Glock next.

[SJ]Simon James

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Re: Formula 1 2009 Melbourne
« Reply #39 on: March 28, 2009, 09:11:00 pm »
Dont forget British people our clocks go forward 1 hour tonight

[SJ]DaveGardner

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Re: Formula 1 2009 Melbourne
« Reply #40 on: March 28, 2009, 10:55:09 pm »
ah crap

lose an hour again, i give up :extend:

that's me getting up before i even go to bed now then lol :cry:

should be good tomorrow, my next door neighbour works for Brawn(previously HondaRacing)GP, all he will tell me is  "Watch this space" :knockout:

what the hell that means god only knows. :tut:


[SJ]mixfloors

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Re: Formula 1 2009 Melbourne
« Reply #41 on: March 28, 2009, 11:51:34 pm »
Well for starters Dave, Richard Bransen, is/has anounced Virgin sponsrship and the decals have already been attached, with the promise of a full livery fit out in an Aus interview (dont know if you saw it or not) for Malaysia. Ross Brawn at the helm, with Nick Fry, mercedes power, virgin money, Button and Barachello's commitment to work and enthusiasm, I for one am very interested to see where they go and think they could well be on for a win this year.

Of note though is the starting time, adjusted for Euro TV by Bernie, holding a gun to Ron Walkers head. (Fkn prick) I have real concern about the light, or lack of it becoming a factor, and think it could be downright dangerours in the later parts of the race.

[SJ]DaveGardner

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Re: Formula 1 2009 Melbourne
« Reply #42 on: March 29, 2009, 12:07:10 am »
Well for starters Dave, Richard Bransen, is/has anounced Virgin sponsrship and the decals have already been attached, with the promise of a full livery fit out in an Aus interview (dont know if you saw it or not) for Malaysia. Ross Brawn at the helm, with Nick Fry, mercedes power, virgin money, Button and Barachello's commitment to work and enthusiasm, I for one am very interested to see where they go and think they could well be on for a win this year.



yes i saw the virgin stickers.

it's a bit of a show TBH, as,even though it is called Brawn GP, it is Honda Racing's money,Virgin has only invested a small portion of money,and, i think it is still the case, Rubens and Jenson were offering to race for free to get the team up and running, i will find out more as soon as i see my neighbour.


[SJ]RockyC

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Re: Formula 1 2009 Melbourne
« Reply #43 on: March 29, 2009, 04:43:31 am »
http://www.justin.tv/vipepl

Here is another link because the other one doesn't work anymore.

[SJ]Pierre61

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Re: Formula 1 2009 Melbourne
« Reply #44 on: March 29, 2009, 04:53:06 am »
That site is totally impossible to sign up to ... 'kit., I'll stick with the bbc

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Re: Formula 1 2009 Melbourne
« Reply #45 on: March 29, 2009, 04:57:28 am »
Thanks Rocky.


Pete I don't have to sign up to watch it.  :dunno:  But glad Rocky provided the link.

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Re: Formula 1 2009 Melbourne
« Reply #46 on: March 29, 2009, 05:04:43 am »

[SJ]Jarkko Rantajoki

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Re: Formula 1 2009 Melbourne
« Reply #47 on: March 29, 2009, 05:33:15 am »
Heres better one, with good image quality. :)

1. http://www.docoja.com/blue/index.php (its http proxy)
2. Type in the search field "http://tvcatchup.com/"
3. click "BECOME A BETA TESTER"
4. Log in and choose to watch BBC1... tada.. F1 race live with decent image.

:)

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Re: Formula 1 2009 Melbourne
« Reply #48 on: March 29, 2009, 06:08:50 am »
Thanks Jarkko, you are my hero.

[SJ]Jarkko Rantajoki

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Re: Formula 1 2009 Melbourne
« Reply #49 on: March 29, 2009, 06:18:23 am »
lol barrichello is such a wrecker..