Author Topic: GTL Pit Stop Process ??  (Read 4785 times)

[SJ]Warren Dawes

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GTL Pit Stop Process ??
« on: February 15, 2008, 04:50:12 am »
I need to go to GTL school, so if someone could help please. After making a twat ( silly arse ) of myself in the RSC League race today, I need advice on how to do a Stop'n'Go.
For this race, I hit the button to notify the pit crew that I was coming in this lap. Got no response. Drove in to the pitlane entry, hit the pit limiter, and eventually the AI seem to take over. When it turned into the pitbay, the car suddenly spun sideways and stopped, but obviously not where it was supposed to be.  :dunno:  Nothing happened for some time, so I figured that it was due to the fact that the car wasn't positioned correctly, so I reversed and drove to where I thought it should sit. Still nothing. After waiting around like a right royal git and seeing most of the field pass me, I just drove off onto the racetrack. Of course I quickly got the D/Q to end my misery and completely waste my whole morning of racing.  :(

So, what did I do wrong or better still, how is it supposed to work?  :?:

Race 07 may be simplified but at least I have never had my races ruined this way.


Marcus

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Re: GTL Pit Stop Process ??
« Reply #1 on: February 15, 2008, 04:57:16 am »
What track was this on?  If it was an add-on it could be the problem.  Normally to do a stop and go you pull into the pits.  Select the stop and go option on the pit board with your arrow keys, and deselect any additional options that may be there (assuming you don't want to make repairs) with the arrow keys.  Then click enter. 

Sorry to hear your race was ruined this way.  GT-Legends has it's goblins at times.  I'm sure the other guys can help you out  better than me though!

[SJ]Azza007

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Re: GTL Pit Stop Process ??
« Reply #2 on: February 15, 2008, 05:25:05 am »
I would advise to turn the autopit option off in your .plr file and do the driving and positioning yourself........

[SJ]Warren Dawes

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Re: GTL Pit Stop Process ??
« Reply #3 on: February 15, 2008, 06:03:36 am »
What track was this on?  If it was an add-on it could be the problem. 


It was Zolder which is a default track. The pit board didn't come up, was I supposed to activate it myself?

[SJ]Minorshunt

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Re: GTL Pit Stop Process ??
« Reply #4 on: February 15, 2008, 07:14:46 am »
Try these parameters in your PLR file.  :)

[ DRIVING AIDS ]
Autopit="0"
Force Autopit Off="1" // Forces autopit always off (unsupported, use at your own risk)
No AI Control="1" // AI never has control over car (except autopit)
Pitcrew Push="1" // When out of fuel in pitlane, allows pitcrew to push car (use throttle and gear selection to direct)
Pit Spot Marker="1" // Show marker to indicate corner pit spot location

[ Game Options ]
Display Pit Board="1"
« Last Edit: February 15, 2008, 07:18:31 am by [SJ]Minorshunt »

[SJ]CasparGTL

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Re: GTL Pit Stop Process ??
« Reply #5 on: February 15, 2008, 11:20:44 am »
...I hit the button to notify the pit crew that I was coming in this lap. Got no response....


Your pit guys were hanging over the pitwall, thought you were having a laugh, so so did they.
I never saw a pit request in GTL, but I might be the ignoramus here.

By my 'experience' (OH YES!!!!  rotfl)

Stop and Go:
If you get a message that you have one, drive to the pitlane, make sure you have slowed down enough and hit your pit limiter.
Park the car at the spot the man is pointing to. (engine keeps running)
NOTE!: The exact spot where you need to stop, or rather, the exact longitudinal line you need to be on can be tricky. Overshooting is not wise either but sometimes you get away with it if it's not by to much. The 'man' that points his finger is a perculiar dude and he drinks to much so make sure you interpretate his sense of direction....
It's best to practice a pit stop/S&G before the race so you get the feel of where the pit guy want you to stop exactly (and where the lights, lines etc are where you need to have the limiter on. VERY different per track).
If you miss the spot to stop, back and forth etc. until it works.
When you get it right, the board comes up.
In a case of S&G you don't get the option of selecting or deselecting tire change, fuel etc. and then just press ENTER. (I think it's not a setting in plr file and it works like this by default, just have a look at the board in a S&G)
When the penalty is served, you get a message in chat window.
When you drive away , THE PIT LIMITER IS OFF! So you have to hit that button again to not get another penalty for speeding in the pitlane. (It's different than GTR2, where the limiter is stays on when you drive away and turns itself off while leaving the pitlane)
TURN LIMITER OFF manually when you cross the designated line/lights.

Pit stop.
So you don't need a pit request.
Same drill to stop in the right spot.
You don't have to turn your engine off to get fuel.
The board comes up and tells you how much fuel you have left.
Unless I missed it for the last 2 years....there is no pit stop strategy where you can plan the amount of fuel etc.at a pitstop.
Just adjust manually with arrow keys left and right.
In a frantic race it's all to easy to miss info in the pit stop.
The arrow is not always on the same line when the board comes up and it has taken me time to find it, haha.
Make sure that the board tells you exactly what you want. Fuel, tires, body repair, suspension.
The numbers below all those settings are the tire wear.
Takes a little time to learn what they indicate and how well you can still drive with those worn tires.
When settings are done, hit ENTER.
End of pistop is indicated in chat.
Again, PUT PIT LIMITER BACK ON and drive. TURN PIT LIMITER OFF when you cross the desoignated line/lights.

Good luck!

Caspar.

PS
[Game options]
Display pitboard=1
This is used to make the actual 'pitboard' visual, the one where you pass the pits and the crew tells you your position, seconds to guy in front and back etc.

[SJ]Warren Dawes

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Re: GTL Pit Stop Process ??
« Reply #6 on: February 15, 2008, 11:45:23 am »
Thanks Caspar, I'll try to practice this off-line sometime. Maybe I should practice not getting one in the first place, but I didn't expect to get one for pulling over and letting cars pass me.  :(   Thanks to the others for the tips too.
I have now changed my .plr as advised to stop the AI taking control. I expected the AI to park me in the correct place, but they were hanging over the fence too I suppose.
Oops! When I hit the button to warn the pitcrew I was coming, I must have been confused with Race 07  silly arse :twit:.

Only one way to learn about GTL I suppose, so I'm doing it the hard way.
Now, how do you stop guys in Alfas driving straight over the top of your Mini to get you out of the way?  :cry:
My next car is going to be a sherman tank  rotfl

[SJ]CasparGTL

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Re: GTL Pit Stop Process ??
« Reply #7 on: February 15, 2008, 11:54:53 am »
Now, how do you stop guys in Alfas driving straight over the top of your Mini to get you out of the way?  :cry:
My next car is going to be a sherman tank


You could ask a Falcon driver?.......
I know one or two who are happy to help you out, hahaha!

I have the same pit troubles in rFactor and GTR2 as you do in GTL now, seldom get a good pistop, so many things to keep track of. "Shut engine down!" "You're making it inefficient!" Yadayadayada....

[SJ]ski9600

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Re: GTL Pit Stop Process ??
« Reply #8 on: February 15, 2008, 02:01:11 pm »
Two other things Warren, if you get a stop and go and then you cut track again on the way to the pits you'll need to do two stop and goes or get disqualified.
Also, if the race ends before you complete your stop and go (got stop and go on last lap) 55 seconds will be added to your race time.
Steve

[SJ]Sh1te R1der

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Re: GTL Pit Stop Process ??
« Reply #9 on: February 15, 2008, 03:18:29 pm »
grrr! don't get me started... last time i made a stop, i had to up and down it to find the single pixel that triggered the action, and having wasted me about 25 seconds, the twat with the board thought it would be amusing to materialise in my car, and thrust his crutch backwards and forwards into my face!  Best advice i can offer is try to make sure the wife and kids are out of the room house, as i tend to vocalise my observations on the standards of maintenance they are offering in the pit, and suggest you do the same!  something along the lines of "cam on you khant!", with the volume set to 11 works for me!

[SJ]DRokK

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Re: GTL Pit Stop Process ??
« Reply #10 on: February 15, 2008, 03:47:50 pm »
ooops about time we gave Gareth and airing  :gareth:

[SJ]CasparGTL

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Re: GTL Pit Stop Process ??
« Reply #11 on: February 15, 2008, 05:58:04 pm »
Yeah, you'd think Dave would be used to the crotchrubber by now.

[SJ]Stein

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Re: GTL Pit Stop Process ??
« Reply #12 on: February 16, 2008, 11:22:30 am »
Warren,

the best things are explained by Minorshunt and Caspar, DO edit the .plr file located in your GTL\userdata\YOURNAME\YOURNAME.PLR.. (Edit..ya already did.. i'm just reading the rest of the posts..  :sorry: ) open it with notepad and edit away, be sure to save, the instructions are spot on.

The thing beeing Warren that manual control is point 1: much more fun.. point 2: a bit more realistic point 3: just about nervewrecking enough to add to the tension of a good position.... whereas automated pit is quite boring.. but you cant take the time to go to the loo as you have to sort out the pitboard... i'm just thinking; after you selected and deselected stuff on the pitboard, THAT's the time when you get to relax whilst the pitcrew does theyre "thing".. Rule of thumb:  if the car is smashed but is not feeling bad.. UNselect the "repair damage"-stuff... i'm not too sure on the tiresshreadedness stuff that Caspar put up as i never actually took the time to take note of that.. hehe
The fuel numbers indicate how many liters are still in there and how many laps can be run with em.. normally it would be more liters then laps..so check how many laps still to go and add laps from there. Maybe a little tip with what i've been expirimenting with... note the total number of laps... note the total number of laps in your tank when filled. subtract... and pit in that lapnumber or one later .. then just hold the button to fill her up completely. But that's my stupid tactic lately and i must say with a bit of consistancy it gets me into the top 10 almost everytime. even top 6's at times... no top 3's as i'm too f*ckin slow for that.. hahahaha

ok warren.. i guess you know now what to do.... immediately.. not just prior to the next race:  start practicing those pitstops.


now i'm gonna read what sh!te and drokky posted  after shunty and Caspar... lol  and Ski.. and Cas again.. and.. ehr.. hahahaha


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« Last Edit: February 16, 2008, 11:28:44 am by [SJ]Stein »

[SJ]Warren Dawes

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Re: GTL Pit Stop Process ??
« Reply #13 on: February 17, 2008, 08:16:14 am »
Thanks to everyone who helped me with this. I made the changes to my .plr file as directed, went back to Zolder and tried it out off-line in practice mode, and it worked.  thumbs up

Strange thing though, I put it back to AI control, and the same problem with the car spinning sideways and never finding the correct parking position occurred again. Must be a bug with Zolder.
Anyway, the manual control seems to be the way to go.   :hats off: