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[SJ]GizMoTo

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VERY VERY IMPORTANT about P&G2
« on: December 28, 2008, 11:27:51 pm »
can all members please make sure you have installed P&G2 using a clean just installed GTR2 and updated with 1.1 Patch no add-ons whatsoever  then install P&G using this virgin clean install

we need to eliminate every possibility of contamination causing CTD's so if everybody makes sure of this clean install we know that isn't the problem

even if you had no problems  on the server at all you could still be causing  the problem

ALSO make sure you have the terrain patched

[SJ]CasparGTL

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Re: VERY VERY IMPORTANT about P&G2
« Reply #1 on: December 28, 2008, 11:29:59 pm »
 :salute:

[SJ]Cato Larsen

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Re: VERY VERY IMPORTANT about P&G2
« Reply #2 on: December 28, 2008, 11:34:44 pm »
Done...

[SJ]Nodnerb

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Re: VERY VERY IMPORTANT about P&G2
« Reply #3 on: December 28, 2008, 11:48:04 pm »
thumbs up

[SJ]AlarmedBread

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Re: VERY VERY IMPORTANT about P&G2
« Reply #4 on: December 28, 2008, 11:58:25 pm »
Is anyone else tired of the new 'standard' in the modding community of requiring a fresh stand-alone installation just to run their mod? :bored:

Where's GTR2 lite?  lol

[SJ]Cato Larsen

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Re: VERY VERY IMPORTANT about P&G2
« Reply #5 on: December 29, 2008, 12:05:50 am »
Is anyone else tired of the new 'standard' in the modding community of requiring a fresh stand-alone installation just to run their mod? :bored:

Where's GTR2 lite?  lol


The main reason is that it is ont just another mod, but a new "game" so to speak.

And we all know GTR2 has CTD issues, so thats the main reason.


[SJ]AlarmedBread

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Re: VERY VERY IMPORTANT about P&G2
« Reply #6 on: December 29, 2008, 12:27:27 am »
That's what they all say! rofl Not faulting the P&G team at all, they do fantastic work. It's just a little frustrating to have half a dozen installs of a game to run mods. Hopefully everyone remembers the trick to point the locations folder to one install so you don't have to copy the tracks all over too.

It would be nice to have a 'lite' version of GTR2, that is the bare essentials to install on top of. I suppose it's possible to make one myself by getting rid of all cars/tracks from the default install, maybe I'll go ahead and do that. :)

[SJ]DRokK

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Re: VERY VERY IMPORTANT about P&G2
« Reply #7 on: December 29, 2008, 12:35:09 am »
Is anyone else tired of the new 'standard' in the modding community of requiring a fresh stand-alone installation just to run their mod? :bored:

Where's GTR2 lite?  lol

no not in the least, P&G is the best thing ive EVER run so i dont thing this is much to ask in the least.
DONE  :salute:

[SJ]JuneBug

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Re: VERY VERY IMPORTANT about P&G2
« Reply #8 on: December 29, 2008, 12:58:31 am »
Hey does SJ have this in the downloads yet? Somewhere I ain't looking maybe :?: lol The original posted download link for this fails every time. Downs fine but install gets an error...

[SJ]dunki2001

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Re: VERY VERY IMPORTANT about P&G2
« Reply #9 on: December 29, 2008, 01:08:01 am »
are you downloading exe version?

i had same, crashing on extraction. have downloaded 3 part rar file. gonna try that next.


[SJ]Tornado

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Re: VERY VERY IMPORTANT about P&G2
« Reply #10 on: December 29, 2008, 03:04:24 am »
I'm with ya Bread, and Lee, thats just because you havent tried the HistoricX mod for rF ;)


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[SJ]Ivan Novi

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Re: VERY VERY IMPORTANT about P&G2
« Reply #11 on: December 29, 2008, 07:04:14 am »
ALSO make sure you have the terrain patched


Huh???? Terrain patched?????

Did a clean install and patched with the 1.1. and then installed the P&G ontop of that. Are there any more patch to install? Where do i find it?

Hopefully everyone remembers the trick to point the locations folder to one install so you don't have to copy the tracks all over too.


How do i do that?

[SJ]Cato Larsen

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Re: VERY VERY IMPORTANT about P&G2
« Reply #12 on: December 29, 2008, 07:53:03 am »
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I'm with ya Bread, and Lee, thats just because you havent tried the HistoricX mod for rF


While historicX mod is very very good, it cannot even come close to the feel and sweetness of P&G, but to each its own.

They are both very good.

[SJ]GizMoTo

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Re: VERY VERY IMPORTANT about P&G2
« Reply #13 on: December 29, 2008, 08:00:22 am »
this thread is nothing to do with another mod for another game it is purely to try and cut out any CTD's caused by the possibility of some other mod  in GTR2 please don't go off topic

if we are all on the same page with a clean install it cuts out the possibility of another mod causing the CTD's if they still happen we can look elsewhere

[SJ]Fred Joseph

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Re: VERY VERY IMPORTANT about P&G2
« Reply #14 on: December 29, 2008, 08:37:26 am »
Hopefully everyone remembers the trick to point the locations folder to one install so you don't have to copy the tracks all over too.


How do i do that?


Yeah please, how ?

[SJ]Fred Joseph

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Re: VERY VERY IMPORTANT about P&G2
« Reply #15 on: December 29, 2008, 08:38:35 am »
Huh???? Terrain patched?????


Ivan,

In your GTR2 folder you'll find a patcher for the terrain.. it will help you to get out of the sand pits quick ;)

[SJ]AlarmedBread

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Re: VERY VERY IMPORTANT about P&G2
« Reply #16 on: December 29, 2008, 08:58:11 am »
To point your new installs to the tracks from your old one, open your     \GTR2\Config.ini


TRACKSDIR=LOCATIONS\

Change to          TRACKSDIR=  C:\Program Files\GTR2\GameData\Locations\      (wherever your other install is located, copy and paste from the folder explorer bar)

You should now have all your tracks and only have to manage one locations folder. :)


[SJ]Fred Joseph

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Re: VERY VERY IMPORTANT about P&G2
« Reply #17 on: December 29, 2008, 08:59:17 am »
Thats cool !!! Thanks a lot !

[SJ]Andy Fuller

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Re: VERY VERY IMPORTANT about P&G2
« Reply #18 on: December 29, 2008, 09:16:01 am »
Hmmm, that trick refuses to work for me Alarmed.

[SJ]DRokK

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Re: VERY VERY IMPORTANT about P&G2
« Reply #19 on: December 29, 2008, 11:42:47 am »
in light of the first post of this thread, its better to move the tracks to the games locations folder not alter .ini files.
ive used historic X mod bill have you used P&G 2  :?: thought not  :finger: :schtum:

[SJ]JuneBug

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Re: VERY VERY IMPORTANT about P&G2
« Reply #20 on: December 29, 2008, 03:24:45 pm »
are you downloading exe version?


Yeah I grabbed the whole meal deal. I will try the three part one when I can make the time and see how that goes.

[SJ]dunki2001

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Re: VERY VERY IMPORTANT about P&G2
« Reply #21 on: December 29, 2008, 03:36:46 pm »
Q

if i do new install and but in different location, do i have to uninstall v1 from the old install?.

Can you save your .plr file and put it into the new install?

I get the locations Thang but, what about setups?

divvy dunki :twit:

[SJ]Pierre61

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Re: VERY VERY IMPORTANT about P&G2
« Reply #22 on: December 29, 2008, 03:41:13 pm »
Q

if i do new install and but in different location, do i have to uninstall v1 from the old install?.

Can you save your .plr file and put it into the new install?

I get the locations Thang but, what about setups?

divvy dunki :twit:


To the best of my knowledge:
If you select the default option from the installer it copies the necessary files from your chosen location leaving the old install in tact .. so you cam leave your V1 on (not sure why you would want to though :) )

Again, with the default option, your .plr file is copied over and you are good to go straight away

New setups will have to be created due to the changes in the versions.


[SJ]dunki2001

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Re: VERY VERY IMPORTANT about P&G2
« Reply #23 on: December 29, 2008, 03:50:07 pm »
Cheers pete,

didn't want to uninstall v1 just in case it messes up my original install.

also do i need to put the unlock all key into new installation?

extremely divvy dunki
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[SJ]Pierre61

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Re: VERY VERY IMPORTANT about P&G2
« Reply #24 on: December 29, 2008, 03:56:10 pm »
Nope .. that gets copied also :)

[SJ]Stein

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Re: VERY VERY IMPORTANT about P&G2
« Reply #25 on: December 29, 2008, 04:49:37 pm »
Huh???? Terrain patched?????


Ivan,

In your GTR2 folder you'll find a patcher for the terrain.. it will help you to get out of the sand pits quick ;)


Growing desperate here... didn't find it.... what's it called exactly?



Woof ~ Woof


[SJ]Jarkko Rantajoki

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Re: VERY VERY IMPORTANT about P&G2
« Reply #26 on: December 29, 2008, 04:50:32 pm »
Huh???? Terrain patched?????


Ivan,

In your GTR2 folder you'll find a patcher for the terrain.. it will help you to get out of the sand pits quick ;)


Growing desperate here... didn't find it.... what's it called exactly?



Woof ~ Woof




PGPatcher.exe

[SJ]Stein

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Re: VERY VERY IMPORTANT about P&G2
« Reply #27 on: December 29, 2008, 04:54:34 pm »
Just redownloading it... as i dumped the installer afterwards....


and now i've got a clean install.. never used.. waiting for it to finish downloading....



So after PnG is installed there is the PGterrainpatch... oooohh... uninstalled png from the main GTR2 install also.. so no wonder i couldn't find it... grinn.. thank you!



Woof ~ woof


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Re: VERY VERY IMPORTANT about P&G2
« Reply #28 on: December 29, 2008, 05:16:12 pm »
Stein, after installation you can also find it in your windows "start" menu. Power&Glory entry.

[SJ]DaveGardner

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Re: VERY VERY IMPORTANT about P&G2
« Reply #29 on: December 29, 2008, 05:48:19 pm »
i had already done a virgin GTR2 install for this, and i have no other tracks installed except the ones included in the game,and the vlm mid ohio track,but at brno the other night whenever i tried joining with the scuderia ferrari  i kept getting a CTD,so i would say something is not quite right.

Dave

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Re: VERY VERY IMPORTANT about P&G2
« Reply #30 on: December 29, 2008, 06:55:20 pm »
Dave, please check our multiplayer FAQ.(http://gtlw-blog.flyingpig.info/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=131:multiplayer-stability-faq&catid=44:general)

 If one client had a bad installation or a terrain patch while others not, then it might cause CTD to OTHER clients. So you might had CTDs without being your fault.

[SJ]2shedz

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Re: VERY VERY IMPORTANT about P&G2
« Reply #31 on: December 29, 2008, 07:00:36 pm »
I have had 2(maybe3) CTDs, it is a clean install and i do run the 'terrain patch' but the only common denominator is that all the CTDs have happened when someone has joined or left and everyone had the CTD at the same time   :dunno:
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PS: this was posted in the wrong thread previously  :hick:

Aristotelis

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Re: VERY VERY IMPORTANT about P&G2
« Reply #32 on: December 29, 2008, 07:06:21 pm »
no worries, I saw your post on the other thread too :) I think this is exactly the case. The server was letting in people with different terrain configurations. When someone with a different configuration entered the server, others where CTDing...

boy do I hate GTR2 sometimes (although not fair considering the amount of fun it has given me)

[SJ]MrDee

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Re: VERY VERY IMPORTANT about P&G2
« Reply #33 on: December 29, 2008, 08:35:42 pm »

New install complete. Up-dated and patched.  :)


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Re: VERY VERY IMPORTANT about P&G2
« Reply #34 on: December 29, 2008, 08:48:04 pm »
K, I've just need to do a terrain patch remain :)


[SJ]Fred Joseph

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Re: VERY VERY IMPORTANT about P&G2
« Reply #35 on: December 29, 2008, 09:02:31 pm »
first time CTD just now on the PnG server
happened when Noobnerd (not sure the name) disconnected..

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[SJ]AlarmedBread

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Re: VERY VERY IMPORTANT about P&G2
« Reply #36 on: December 29, 2008, 10:20:28 pm »
in light of the first post of this thread, its better to move the tracks to the games locations folder not alter .ini files.
ive used historic X mod bill have you used P&G 2  :?: thought not  :finger: :schtum:


The .ini changes nothing for me, still the same constant CTD's. I did give p&g2 it's fair try, but I haven't been able to make more than half a lap without a CTD. :bye:

[SJ]Fred Joseph

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Re: VERY VERY IMPORTANT about P&G2
« Reply #37 on: December 29, 2008, 10:27:06 pm »
It CTD on me every session (or so) now... it didn't happened yesterday (I had the Terrain patch NOT) and today (with the terrain patch) it CTD..

I did a clean installation of GTR2 and PnG2 but it's not working  :((

Aristotelis

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Re: VERY VERY IMPORTANT about P&G2
« Reply #38 on: December 29, 2008, 11:04:45 pm »
if this is the case guys, may a suggest a different vga driver? It might be incompatible with gtr2 itself?

[SJ]Fred Joseph

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Re: VERY VERY IMPORTANT about P&G2
« Reply #39 on: December 29, 2008, 11:31:41 pm »
if this is the case guys, may a suggest a different vga driver? It might be incompatible with gtr2 itself?


you could drive something like ten minutes then got a CTD for a video driver ?

[SJ]Sh1te R1der

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Re: VERY VERY IMPORTANT about P&G2
« Reply #40 on: December 30, 2008, 12:02:46 am »
Well, just finished a long session on the server, and did suffer a few CTD's.  Sometimes these seemed to be caused by another's disconnection, some were mass bootings, and some were just random.  I generally have very few problems with GTR2, and tonight's experience is not what I would consider typical.  That said, it did not detract from my enjoyment of P&G!  Yehaaaaw! 

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Re: VERY VERY IMPORTANT about P&G2
« Reply #41 on: December 30, 2008, 05:27:52 am »
Mine is on a clean, updated GTR2...But, U prolly won't see me 'til the mood strikes.  ;)

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Re: VERY VERY IMPORTANT about P&G2
« Reply #42 on: December 30, 2008, 05:31:36 am »
You got it right Ray.

I think the bulk of problems are caused by using anything but a virgin install of GTR2.  During beta testing I used a fresh install every time.  The only CTD's I had were a result of alt/tabs.

We all know how refreshing a virgin install can be.  If anyone hasn't tried it this way, I'd suggest you put your fingers in it, and see how well it fits you afterward. 

[SJ]Fred Joseph

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Re: VERY VERY IMPORTANT about P&G2
« Reply #43 on: December 30, 2008, 12:19:37 pm »
omg  rofl  rofl

[SJ]DaveGardner

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Re: VERY VERY IMPORTANT about P&G2
« Reply #44 on: December 30, 2008, 02:17:36 pm »
You got it right Ray.

I think the bulk of problems are caused by using anything but a virgin install of GTR2.  During beta testing I used a fresh install every time.  The only CTD's I had were a result of alt/tabs.

We all know how refreshing a virgin install can be.  If anyone hasn't tried it this way, I'd suggest you put your fingers in it, and see how well it fits you afterward. 


i have a total virgin install Marcus, and yes,it is very refreshing, no excess play as yet, but you can't beat the feel of an experienced install, where it's tight where it matters but a bit of extra give where needed.

on a serious note.

the P&G2 install is on a total clean GTR2 patched 1.1 install with no additions,only the mid ohio track.

as for the VGA driver recommendation. i run an ati 4870 512mb with the ccc 8:12.

i may not use P&G2 if i have to keep swapping drivers just to play it.

Dave

Aristotelis

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Re: VERY VERY IMPORTANT about P&G2
« Reply #45 on: December 30, 2008, 02:30:15 pm »
LMAO!!!! guys you're fantastic :D

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Re: VERY VERY IMPORTANT about P&G2
« Reply #46 on: December 30, 2008, 05:11:18 pm »
You got it right Ray.

I think the bulk of problems are caused by using anything but a virgin install of GTR2.  During beta testing I used a fresh install every time.  The only CTD's I had were a result of alt/tabs.

We all know how refreshing a virgin install can be.  If anyone hasn't tried it this way, I'd suggest you put your fingers in it, and see how well it fits you afterward. 


i have a total virgin install Marcus, and yes,it is very refreshing, no excess play as yet, but you can't beat the feel of an experienced install, where it's tight where it matters but a bit of extra give where needed.

on a serious note.

the P&G2 install is on a total clean GTR2 patched 1.1 install with no additions,only the mid ohio track.

as for the VGA driver recommendation. i run an ati 4870 512mb with the ccc 8:12.

i may not use P&G2 if i have to keep swapping drivers just to play it.

Dave


I use those drivers with no probs. :)
(im using the xtremeG ones though)

[SJ]HeatCAN

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Re: VERY VERY IMPORTANT about P&G2
« Reply #47 on: December 31, 2008, 02:48:31 am »
 :grrr:  Well, I guess I won't be joining you fast catz anytime soon.   :grrr:

Got the 3 part download, ran it  to make 1 file, it verified the files, started up, and when it got to gtl dvd, got error it could not find it and canceled install.  All this while autorun has the GTL menu in front of my eyes on the screen.  Tried w/ autorun off as well.  Jiggled cables, chked the bios...aaaaaggghh!!

Yes, I have a virgin gtr2 install, a REAL copy of GTL, but no more patience.  I will go back to working on the Sim Junkies Polka....I'm out.   thumbs down

[SJ]btr gator

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Re: VERY VERY IMPORTANT about P&G2
« Reply #48 on: December 31, 2008, 04:00:03 am »
its worth more tries!

[SJ]GT_Raycer

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Re: VERY VERY IMPORTANT about P&G2
« Reply #49 on: January 01, 2009, 12:08:12 am »
HeatCAN...Was there a BROWSE option on the screen that was looking for your GTL disk?

Also, did you have Disk 1 of your GTL in the drive?

If you have more than one optical drives, try putting GTL into the other optical drive and see if it's found there.

I hope you get it worked out.  :)

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Re: VERY VERY IMPORTANT about P&G2
« Reply #50 on: January 01, 2009, 04:02:44 am »
You got it right Ray.

I think the bulk of problems are caused by using anything but a virgin install of GTR2.  During beta testing I used a fresh install every time.  The only CTD's I had were a result of alt/tabs.

We all know how refreshing a virgin install can be.  If anyone hasn't tried it this way, I'd suggest you put your fingers in it, and see how well it fits you afterward. 


I have tried 24 times to put this in, FRESH install, not altered, and updated to 1.1...NEVER INSTALLS>>>>>>>>>>>!!!!

For those that have it, congratulations, I am with Heat Can, on this one...... Putting it away, and will not try anymore.............

CTD?

c'mon, how can u put up with that.....?

A properly created program/game will NEVER CTD.

I am not bashing Historic Racing.... but if you can lower your standards, to allow for short such things as CTD, continuous patching, then you will only become more and more frustrated with GTR2.

How many of you "Played", your virgin install, before you added P&G?

It didn't crash to desktop then.....did it??

Just curious.

I have gotten help from members of the GTL Workshop, and other very experienced Modders, and not a one of us has gotten this to install.

Cheers to all that can run it!!!

Jeff

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Re: VERY VERY IMPORTANT about P&G2
« Reply #51 on: January 01, 2009, 09:38:40 am »
unfortunately yes GTR2 Virgin install can CTD on ya regular

so far in the time I've had P&G2 installed i have had 1 CTD this was after the race{Midohio forgot how many laps it was } i had driven all the way round the track slowly on a slow down lap and was entering the pits  with everybody leaving the game and I'm still not sure it was that as i dashed to the loo when i got back my virus was doing an update so it could have been that that cased it

[SJ]Sh1te R1der

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Re: VERY VERY IMPORTANT about P&G2
« Reply #52 on: January 01, 2009, 01:46:10 pm »
Not sure if this is the correct forum, but I had a strange episode with P&G last night.  I had left the server to change from the blue Ferrari 250 to the Lightweight 275; when I came back in, I suffered a CTD.  Not entirely unexpected, and re-launched the game, only for it to refuse to load, and kick me back to desktop; tried several more times, including following a re-boot, but the game refused to load.  Checked to see if had perhaps reset the resolution.. no dice; deleted the HAT file... no dice; deleted replay files... no dice.  In fact, I did everything I could think of, then finally uninstalled/reinstalled Power & Glory, and all appears to be well.  Weird sh1te though, and I'm wondering if anyone else has experienced similar problems.  It should also be noted that I never had particular issues with GTR2, and certainly did not experience CTD's with such regularity, prior to installing the mod; not a gripe, but an observation, you understand. 

And Jeff... stick with it mate, because once the bugs have been squashed, P&G will be the only game you want to fire up.  The feel from the cars is up there with NR2003 feedback, which in my opinion has always been superior to anything offered by S*mbin, rFactor and so on.  On top of this, you have some delicious car models, and above all, the sounds are as good as any I have heard.  A masterpiece.

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Re: VERY VERY IMPORTANT about P&G2
« Reply #53 on: January 01, 2009, 02:16:06 pm »
Sh1te,
 Same happened to me. Got a CTD-went to restart the game-wouldnt even get to the 1st screen.Tried a dozen times. Restarted my puter a couple of times-no change. Uninstalled+ reinstalled PnG2-all was well.

 I wish PnG2 sucked-it would be easy to walk away from it--but it doesnt...

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Re: VERY VERY IMPORTANT about P&G2
« Reply #54 on: January 01, 2009, 03:00:25 pm »
If GTR2 isn't even starting or getting to the menu please read this thread for a possible solution.
http://www.nogripracing.com/forum/showthread.php?t=40379
« Last Edit: January 01, 2009, 03:03:52 pm by HR186S »

[SJ]DaveGardner

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Re: VERY VERY IMPORTANT about P&G2
« Reply #55 on: January 01, 2009, 03:02:48 pm »
Not sure if this is the correct forum, but I had a strange episode with P&G last night.  I had left the server to change from the blue Ferrari 250 to the Lightweight 275; when I came back in, I suffered a CTD.  Not entirely unexpected, and re-launched the game, only for it to refuse to load, and kick me back to desktop; tried several more times, including following a re-boot, but the game refused to load.  Checked to see if had perhaps reset the resolution.. no dice; deleted the HAT file... no dice; deleted replay files... no dice.  In fact, I did everything I could think of, then finally uninstalled/reinstalled Power & Glory, and all appears to be well.  Weird sh1te though, and I'm wondering if anyone else has experienced similar problems.  It should also be noted that I never had particular issues with GTR2, and certainly did not experience CTD's with such regularity, prior to installing the mod; not a gripe, but an observation, you understand. 

And Jeff... stick with it mate, because once the bugs have been squashed, P&G will be the only game you want to fire up.  The feel from the cars is up there with NR2003 feedback, which in my opinion has always been superior to anything offered by S*mbin, rFactor and so on.  On top of this, you have some delicious car models, and above all, the sounds are as good as any I have heard.  A masterpiece.



i had exactly the same problem the other night sh1te,when we were mucking around at brno,i couldn't join for love nor money,and it was the Lightweight 275 too

likewise i have never experienced the CTD in GTR2 even with shit loads of mods added to it,and i used to alt-tab regularly as well.

when i mentioned this the other day Aristoteles said my graphics driver may not be compatible.

well i'm sorry,but whats the point of releasing a mod/addon if it's not going to work with modern drivers.

cos i sure as hell ain't gonna keep changing back to an older version just to play a game,no matter how much i love it.

that's a gripe btw
lol

i love P&G2 when it works though.

Dave
« Last Edit: January 06, 2009, 07:41:03 pm by [SJ]DaveGardner »

[SJ]HeatCAN

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Re: VERY VERY IMPORTANT about P&G2
« Reply #56 on: January 01, 2009, 05:46:35 pm »
P&G Up and running, a day too late, but better late than never!

Thanks for all the advice!

Aristotelis

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Re: VERY VERY IMPORTANT about P&G2
« Reply #57 on: January 01, 2009, 08:17:04 pm »
i had exactly the same problem the other night sh1te,when we were mucking around at brno,i couldn't join for love nor money,and it was the Lightweight 275 too

likewise i have never experienced the CTD in GTR" even with shit loads of mods added to it,and i used to alt-tab regularly as well.

when i mentioned this the other day Aristoteles said my graphics driver may not be compatible.

well i'm sorry,but whats the point of releasing a mod/addon if it's not going to work with modern drivers.

cos i sure as hell ain't gonna keep changing back to an older version just to play a game,no matter how much i love it.

that's a gripe btw
lol

i love P&G2 when it works though.

Dave


I understand your frustration guys. Nevertheless, please try to understand my point of view. I cannot know if you're an avid GTR2 gamer or an occasional one. So I always start form the basics. I offer the basic advice and one by one I eliminate possible issues and go to more difficult ones.

Also from the thousands that download the mod, unfortunately for you but fortunately for us, only a relatively small percentage seems to have serious CTD problems and form that small percentage the vast majority is related to server/client problems. 

We are a small group of modders that have created one of the biggest mods ever. I'm not talking about quality here, this is for you to judge, but I'm talking about "dimensions" and that is a fact. We don't have the resources of a big team and not even the tools to find out what causes CTDs on some PC configurations. So we trying to figure out as they appear.

So I'm really sorry, it was not my intention to ask you to change video drivers for the mod only. I assumed -wrongly- that it was a general issue with GTR2.

In the following days I will ask the SJ server admins to join me to a chat, where I will explain all the methods possible to eliminate as much problems as possible. We will also publish a new tool that might help more. We are trying hard as we can, but for sure we won't be able to help everybody.

Happy new year.

[SJ]btr gator

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Re: VERY VERY IMPORTANT about P&G2
« Reply #58 on: January 01, 2009, 08:34:41 pm »
Well, troubles aside, i want to say thanks for all the hard work, its a masterpiece.

i do hope in time we can eliminate/lessen the CTD's, as that is the only flaw imo.

Marcus

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Re: VERY VERY IMPORTANT about P&G2
« Reply #59 on: January 01, 2009, 08:38:33 pm »
Aris thank you for all your help.  And thank you for the great mod.  I hope you wont take peoples frustration personally.  Those of us that have experienced the mod do enjoy it to a very great extent.

As for me, I can't play online and I still haven't heard back from viva media about getting a new online code.  So I should go on a rant about that!

Aristotelis

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Re: VERY VERY IMPORTANT about P&G2
« Reply #60 on: January 01, 2009, 08:48:11 pm »
No worries at all Marcus. I don't take peoples frustration personally, on the contrary I feel their pain. That's why I'm trying to understand the problem. GTR2 can be quite an pain in the ass... The ctd happen online but not offline. Why? who knows, log files show nothing as usual.. go figure

[SJ]DaveGardner

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Re: VERY VERY IMPORTANT about P&G2
« Reply #61 on: January 01, 2009, 08:55:08 pm »
Aristotelis,please accept my appologies,it was not a dig as such,i'm just so frustrated cos when it works it is superb,but  when it plays up i could quite happily chuck my pc out the window,i suppose the problems i'm having today with the graphics card aren't helping either.

Dave

Aristotelis

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Re: VERY VERY IMPORTANT about P&G2
« Reply #62 on: January 01, 2009, 08:57:29 pm »
Dave m8, really... no need for apologies at all!
oh come on guys LOL where is a healthy flame?!!? :D

[SJ]Sh1te R1der

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Re: VERY VERY IMPORTANT about P&G2
« Reply #63 on: January 01, 2009, 10:15:22 pm »
oh come on guys LOL where is a healthy flame?!!? :D

A man after my own heart!  lol I am sure that my problems are related to add-on tracks; will experiment if my install goes tits up again.  Problems or not, I just ran the big 'Vette against E Types, Cobras, Ferrari's and the like, and it was great fun!

Just a question Ari, and it is not that I am ungrateful for the work you have done, but why were there no Astons in the game?

Aristotelis

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Re: VERY VERY IMPORTANT about P&G2
« Reply #64 on: January 01, 2009, 10:27:00 pm »
No astons yet because we think there wheren't up to the rest of the cars quality standards. The F250 too was about to not be included... but the new cockpit gave it the green light, although we still don't like the exterior

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Re: VERY VERY IMPORTANT about P&G2
« Reply #65 on: January 02, 2009, 01:09:01 am »
I see; so "no Aston's yet" suggests something for the future perhaps!  thumbs up  smackeroo

Aristotelis

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Re: VERY VERY IMPORTANT about P&G2
« Reply #66 on: January 02, 2009, 07:36:35 am »
well the project ain't over yet... and we intend to do the same step from v2 to v3, as we did from v1 to v2... but v2 has UI and physics... so we need to work on cars...  :badaboomtish:

[SJ]AlarmedBread

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Re: VERY VERY IMPORTANT about P&G2
« Reply #67 on: January 02, 2009, 08:38:06 am »
Cheers to all that can run it!!!

Jeff


Maybe there is something to it being a hardware problem, since we have very similar PC's and neither of us can run this mod. I'll test soon on another pc and see it I get the same issues.

Apologies if our venting sounds like criticism, it's merely frustration not being able to run this mod with our friends online. :)

Aristotelis

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Re: VERY VERY IMPORTANT about P&G2
« Reply #68 on: January 02, 2009, 10:51:30 am »
Can you guys be available tonight after 21:30 CET on ventrilo? It's easier to talk and find a solution like this.

[SJ]HeatCAN

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Re: VERY VERY IMPORTANT about P&G2
« Reply #69 on: January 02, 2009, 04:34:32 pm »
Thanks again, flying pig dude....incredible work!