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[SJ]DenDanger

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Re: P&G v2 out!!!!!!
« Reply #1 on: December 24, 2008, 03:50:16 pm »
Does it need a clean install? Or can you add it to the existing P&G install?

[SJ]Gooseman

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Re: P&G v2 out!!!!!!
« Reply #2 on: December 24, 2008, 03:53:00 pm »
says to uninstall v1

[SJ]GizMoTo

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Re: P&G v2 out!!!!!!
« Reply #3 on: December 24, 2008, 03:54:13 pm »
Does it need a clean install? Or can you add it to the existing P&G install?

you will find 3 options in the installer  .....it is very very easy to install  no messing around  you will see what i mean when you start the install ;)

dump the old P&G install ;)

[SJ]DenDanger

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Re: P&G v2 out!!!!!!
« Reply #4 on: December 24, 2008, 04:49:52 pm »
Downloading now. WHEEEEEEE>>>>>>>........

[SJ]DRokK

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Re: P&G v2 out!!!!!!
« Reply #5 on: December 24, 2008, 04:57:34 pm »
WOOOT! what a fantastic christmas present  thumbs up

DucFreak

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Re: P&G v2 out!!!!!!
« Reply #6 on: December 24, 2008, 05:35:08 pm »
If you have the three parts download version, you just need to have the three parts in same directory, then select to decompress the first one.
Don't worry, it will decompress from the other two parts as well. ;)

It will create one big installer with name "PnGv2.0_installer.exe", which is what you'll run to install P&G v2.0 (and then just follow the options).


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If you're a newcomer to P&G and GTR2, then we do strongly recommend a fresh installation of GTR2 patched to 1.1.0.0, ready to receive P&G v2.0 (and only that), prior to the mod installation.

Once the P&G v2.0 installer is started, select installation option #2.
P&G v2.0 will be installed in there, and all the unnecessary old GTR2 content will be deleted as well.

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If you've been a GTR2 user, and wish to maintain add-on tracks and such, just make sure to uninstall any older versions of P&G prior to anything (this is, IF you have any installed).

Once the P&G v2.0 installer is started, select installation option #1, it will transfer your player profile options and add-on tracks (from an older GTR2 installation selected by you), all going into a separate installation just for P&Gv2.0.

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In both cases, the GT-Legends CD/DVD disk should be in the tray before initiating the installation of P&G v2.0, so that it's ready to respond when its presence is asked by the installer, to then proceed with the installation.

All the various installer options are very easy to follow, should be absolutly fine for anyone, it's all really that simple.
Still, any problems, please post about it, we will try to help asap! :)



BTW, many many thanks to SJ colaboration during P&G v2.0 construction, also for kindly providing mirrors for downloads. ...P&G V2.0 is also result of your assistance too!  thumbs up 

MERRY CHRISTMAS EVERYBODY! ...hope to see you online in one of these magnificent beasts!  :hats off:
« Last Edit: December 24, 2008, 06:12:03 pm by DucFreak »

[SJ]DenDanger

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Re: P&G v2 out!!!!!!
« Reply #7 on: December 24, 2008, 05:56:56 pm »
 Okay, so I got it me thinks. Am I to assume the installer somehow used the 2nd and third rar's automatically?

 It seems the SJ download area only has prt1 in all 3 mirrors.......


 And I do so love this 'Tina.....

 Thanks to all who worked so hard on this. And thanks Lucio for coming and posting here.

[SJ]GizMoTo

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Re: P&G v2 out!!!!!!
« Reply #8 on: December 24, 2008, 05:58:58 pm »
we are uploading the files as quick as we can hopefully all will be sorted soon thumbs up

[SJ]Tornado

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Re: P&G v2 out!!!!!!
« Reply #9 on: December 24, 2008, 06:30:13 pm »
Well crap,looks like i may have to re-instal GTR2 , sheeesh, hwg again !!


:toker:

Thanks to the P&G Team !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[SJ]DenDanger

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Re: P&G v2 out!!!!!!
« Reply #10 on: December 24, 2008, 06:31:12 pm »
 Gonna make sure my GTL is working right for Alfatina today then gonnna go give P&G a run.

[SJ]Gooseman

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Re: P&G v2 out!!!!!!
« Reply #11 on: December 24, 2008, 06:39:24 pm »
Well crap,looks like i may have to re-instal GTR2 , sheeesh, hwg again !!


:toker:

Thanks to the P&G Team !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


think there are some cars in there you are really going to like bill :)

[SJ]DRokK

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Re: P&G v2 out!!!!!!
« Reply #12 on: December 24, 2008, 06:48:02 pm »
just tried, but get this error...
'Copy Existing GTR2 files to a new location' -mode started
GTL DVD detection
GT Legends DVD found on drive [D:\]. Thank You.
Output folder: C:\Program Files\PnG2
Copying a new, slim GTR2 installation for the Power&Glory
# Error with CopyFiles E:\GTR2\UIData\gtr2ui.mnu C:\Program Files\PnG2\UIData\gtr2ui.mnu
(returned: 0)


[SJ]Madmax

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Re: P&G v2 out!!!!!!
« Reply #13 on: December 24, 2008, 07:00:18 pm »
getting the same err message Lee  :grrr:



Alan

[SJ]DenDanger

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Re: P&G v2 out!!!!!!
« Reply #14 on: December 24, 2008, 07:13:33 pm »
 Hmm, I thought I had installed it in my old P&G folder and discovered it went to program files. (I have an additional GTR2 folder where all my GTR2 installs "live") Just moved it there and reaimed the desktop icon.

 I know I had copied the GTR2 info from my main GTR2 install if that helps at all...??? I know too I had tried 2 of the options before finding one that worked for me.

[SJ]MaK

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Re: P&G v2 out!!!!!!
« Reply #15 on: December 24, 2008, 07:22:18 pm »
fantastic mod, big big thanks to the people bringing it to us :)

for the guys having problem with the installer. I might be wrong but i think it's vista related (if you dont run vista sorry then im very wrong)

From Drokk post it seems you are trying to install it into the 'program files' folder, that folder has 'terrible' restrictions under vista if you have 'UAC' running. An idea would try to turn it off (to disable UAC on vista just google and you'll find info about it) or try to install P&G into another folder but not 'program files'. Be also sure to run the installer with 'Administrator' rights (right click + run as administrator).

[SJ]RockyC

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Re: P&G v2 out!!!!!!
« Reply #16 on: December 24, 2008, 07:46:31 pm »
Woohoo!!! Downloading now from SJ!!!  :biggrin:

[SJ]DRokK

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Re: P&G v2 out!!!!!!
« Reply #17 on: December 24, 2008, 07:51:27 pm »
no mak runnin XP here, Alan just gave me some pointer, gonna give it another go after alfatina  :salute:

[SJ]Jarkko Rantajoki

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Re: P&G v2 out!!!!!!
« Reply #18 on: December 24, 2008, 07:55:21 pm »
Only was able to run few laps in the morning, Installed GTR2 and chose to do a standalone png of it, worked a treat, menus are great, cars are great.. great job guys!

[SJ]Kristof Huyck

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Re: P&G v2 out!!!!!!
« Reply #19 on: December 24, 2008, 07:55:28 pm »
fantastic mod, big big thanks to the people bringing it to us :)

for the guys having problem with the installer. I might be wrong but i think it's vista related (if you dont run vista sorry then im very wrong)

From Drokk post it seems you are trying to install it into the 'program files' folder, that folder has 'terrible' restrictions under vista if you have 'UAC' running. An idea would try to turn it off (to disable UAC on vista just google and you'll find info about it) or try to install P&G into another folder but not 'program files'. Be also sure to run the installer with 'Administrator' rights (right click + run as administrator).


UAC is just a good security feature imo, anyway I have Vista 64bits and you don't need to do anything special like running the installer as administrator because you will be asked if you give permission for the installer to continue by UAC.  :)

[SJ]DieselJC

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Re: P&G v2 out!!!!!!
« Reply #20 on: December 24, 2008, 08:28:33 pm »
Not having installed the last version I might give this a go..whats the best install option? I have GTR2 installed with mods in it already and not sure how to do another install..

JC

[SJ]DenDanger

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Re: P&G v2 out!!!!!!
« Reply #21 on: December 24, 2008, 08:46:09 pm »
Best to do a dedicated install.

[SJ]DieselJC

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Re: P&G v2 out!!!!!!
« Reply #22 on: December 24, 2008, 10:10:27 pm »
So I have P&G downloaded went o install GTR2 and it doesnt give me that option as I already have it installed..how do I make another install?

[SJ]DenDanger

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Re: P&G v2 out!!!!!!
« Reply #23 on: December 24, 2008, 11:35:48 pm »
I think one of the options now will "take" the info needed from your GTR2 install and make a separate P&G install if I understand it right. I think that's what happened to mine and why it went to program files. Also, have your copy of GTL in the drive when you do for the disc check.

[SJ]DieselJC

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Re: P&G v2 out!!!!!!
« Reply #24 on: December 24, 2008, 11:39:01 pm »
Found a tutorial for seperate install..all is installed including patches etc..works great..Cool Mod..never did have the first one so its a new experience for me..not a huge fan of GTL but These are cool..Thanks.

JC

Marcus

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Re: P&G v2 out!!!!!!
« Reply #25 on: December 25, 2008, 03:29:12 am »
I have been waiting forever to race this game with the full league!  I cannot wait!  See you guys this weekend.

I love you GTLW!

[SJ]DenDanger

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Re: P&G v2 out!!!!!!
« Reply #26 on: December 25, 2008, 04:23:22 am »
 So far, I merely took the Lotus Cortina one lap on the Nordshlieffe......

 Wow. Just. Wow.

Aristotelis

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Re: P&G v2 out!!!!!!
« Reply #27 on: December 25, 2008, 12:25:45 pm »
Hello everybody, sorry for the late reply.
Thank you all for the nice comments.

For the installation problems.
The 1st option of the installer tries to find a GTR2 as original as possible, the 2nd option too but can go over some "changes". So it is necessary that you use a gtr2 installation as original as possible .If you have put mods on it, or changed any files the installer will block himselft because he can't garantee an online stable version.

So if nothing else works, do a new gtr2 installation and try again.

the 3rd option will probably not care and install the mod anyway on top of GTR2. It will be very unstable on online racing, both for you and for the other clients and it might give unpredictable results on offline too if you have mods that conflict with P&G.

Hope that helps, for any doubts ask I'll be watching :)

[SJ]DenDanger

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Re: P&G v2 out!!!!!!
« Reply #28 on: December 25, 2008, 01:06:54 pm »
 Having a blast with this today. Love it.

 The first, I admit, I installed it, intended to play it more as I loved it but never did. Probably between, just having gotten GTL, GTR2 and then trying to sort rFactor, just too much at once. I got overwhelemed.

 So, the P&G cars got dusty,  tires lost air, brake lines corroded and gathered condensation, rotors and drums rusted, oil turned to sludge and small rodents took up residence in the interiors and engine bays and feasted upon the wiring and fibres.

 So, now, I have more time and once again have opened the warehouse door and Oh my, nice shiny restoration of these proud steeds. Yup, gonna wring them out this time. Conjure up the spirits of Whizzo Williams and others and remember when race cars required REAL drivers!

[SJ]Rivet

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Re: P&G v2 out!!!!!!
« Reply #29 on: December 25, 2008, 05:58:33 pm »
Much Kudos to Ari & the whole team. What a fantastic Christmas present.

Only spent a short time with it so far but having a blast. Great great job. :biggrin: thumbs up

[SJ]DieselJC

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Re: P&G v2 out!!!!!!
« Reply #30 on: December 25, 2008, 06:18:01 pm »
I just need some set up tips now...not used to these older cars..

Aristotelis

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Re: P&G v2 out!!!!!!
« Reply #31 on: December 25, 2008, 06:53:24 pm »
well, starting from your wheel, use 900 degrees of rotation, then in the garage setup, use from 30 to 34 degrees of steering lock. Only for cars with a very short wheelbase (like the abarth) I suggest using something less like 24-28.

Stick with the default setups, they are quite neutral and not too difficult, but start with cars that have a good power for their grip. I suggest starting with the abarth, alfa gta, alpine 1.3 and move up from there. Stay away for starters from the big block corvettes, cobras and gt40s

Driving style and tecnique is where you need to focus. Brake soon, VERY soon. Don't look at the asphalt braking points because they are made from the modern gtr2 cars. For starters brake before them and enter the turn slowly. Remember to blip the throttle everytime you downshift a gear.
Inside the turn, have patience and start accelerating when you see the exit.

Start this way, and build up speed... there is lot's to learn but I can garantuee you it will be rewarding :)

[SJ]Von T

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Re: P&G v2 out!!!!!!
« Reply #32 on: December 25, 2008, 07:15:10 pm »
Really like this one. :)

[SJ]DieselJC

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Re: P&G v2 out!!!!!!
« Reply #33 on: December 25, 2008, 07:32:23 pm »
Thanks for the tips..

[SJ]Stein

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Re: P&G v2 out!!!!!!
« Reply #34 on: December 25, 2008, 08:08:18 pm »
Downloading, thank you Power and Glory team and ofcourse our SJ moderators for putting our name on the list as well  ;)



Woof ~ Woof



top gear test track.. here i cometh!
allthough i think the AIARFC will be none existant... as you need 2-3 laps to "heat up the tyres" hehe

[SJ]Jarkko Rantajoki

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Re: P&G v2 out!!!!!!
« Reply #35 on: December 25, 2008, 08:33:13 pm »
well, starting from your wheel, use 900 degrees of rotation, then in the garage setup, use from 30 to 34 degrees of steering lock. Only for cars with a very short wheelbase (like the abarth) I suggest using something less like 24-28.


I tried several cars with 900 degrees of rotation, but it just always felt wrong, and couldnt in anyway react fast enough, especially since i use high FFB.. So what im doing is 720degrees with full lock, seems to work ok.

What a great mod! Even though i was in beta im still surprised with the attention to the smallest detail starting from game UI, going to tire behaviour, Stunning, amazing job, hard to believe we get it all FREE!

I really wish you guys get all the credit for this you deserve, i know ive been trying to spread the word of this great mod just about everywhere.
:)

Merry christmas, and thanks for your huge efforts on this!

Aristotelis

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Re: P&G v2 out!!!!!!
« Reply #36 on: December 25, 2008, 08:34:53 pm »
Thank you Jarkko, comments like yours and everybody else in here, is our best credit :)

[SJ]CasparGTL

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Re: P&G v2 out!!!!!!
« Reply #37 on: December 25, 2008, 08:55:01 pm »
Just installed a separate GTR2/P&G and it's a dream!
Quick, smooth, flawless and looks absolutely marvelous!
It will take many many laps to see feel and hear what you guys have done, great!

Man am I glad that I could do 1/10000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000th  :biggrin: Thanks for giving me that chance  to thank you for this wonderful piece of art Ari and chums!

Merry Christmas, man what a timimg!

Caspar..


[SJ]Jarkko Rantajoki

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Re: P&G v2 out!!!!!!
« Reply #38 on: December 25, 2008, 08:55:50 pm »
Now Kristof.. when do we get PnG rank?  :biggrin:

[SJ]CasparGTL

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Re: P&G v2 out!!!!!!
« Reply #39 on: December 25, 2008, 08:57:08 pm »
 rofl  :hats off:

[SJ]Milan Milicevic

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Re: P&G v2 out!!!!!!
« Reply #40 on: December 25, 2008, 09:05:02 pm »
Really special present, thank you guys for all efforts.

I've just jumped in/out from server to check it my installations (clean) and its all work perfectly.
It was Monza on server and I picked Vette (the most powerful one) ........  :yep: what a blast it was. Since there were no one on server after few laps I swiched off on offline mode :)

More driving, testing car and track changing etc ... :) thanks again. It would be a long night :)

Merry Christmas to all.

p.s our Christmas coming 2 weeks later (Orthodox) but I feel like it rise early this year :)

THANKS!!!
« Last Edit: December 25, 2008, 09:11:36 pm by [SJ]Milan Milicevic »

[SJ]CasparGTL

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« Reply #41 on: December 25, 2008, 09:37:52 pm »

p.s our Christmas coming 2 weeks later (Orthodox) but I feel like it rise early this year :)



Ah , the "??????" ????????, always makes me puzzled.  :biggrin:
Nice wish there Milan, very friendly.

[SJ]DenDanger

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Re: P&G v2 out!!!!!!
« Reply #42 on: December 25, 2008, 10:07:53 pm »
 I like it at 900. Only been going to 20-24 with the lock. Otherwise, it feels unatural to me, but I've had a few older cars and it feels real this way. lol

 Makes me really miss those cars....Haha.

 Excellent, excellent game.

[SJ]Andy Fuller

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Re: P&G v2 out!!!!!!
« Reply #43 on: December 26, 2008, 07:45:07 am »
This mod is amazing. It dose not feel right refering to it as a "mod", it seems like it is so much more. I have alot more to explore with this, but I am sure it will be great fun.

[SJ]RockyC

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Re: P&G v2 out!!!!!!
« Reply #44 on: December 26, 2008, 07:48:19 am »
Yeah, this mod (addon?) :) is great!!!!! Sounds are awesome!!!  :biggrin:  thumbs up

[SJ]Cato Larsen

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Re: P&G v2 out!!!!!!
« Reply #45 on: December 26, 2008, 09:26:50 am »
Oh this feels as sweet as i hoped it would.

I did spend some time in all the beta releases and have seen the progress you made all the way.

Still you guys amaze me.... I am happy you guys made it this far, it is an awesome piece of work.

BTW: just a little detail notice.
In the corvette L88(i think it was) the roadster.
When you "put your foot down" the foot texture goes into the body/floor of the cra.

Sorry for mentioning minor things like that, but it was just something that caught my eye when playing yesterday.

[SJ]CasparGTL

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Re: P&G v2 out!!!!!!
« Reply #46 on: December 26, 2008, 09:54:41 am »
Cato's heavy right foot eh, it's a sexy thing.  lol
Kidding, good call Cato.

I found a funny thing too.
No worries, no glitch, just funny.
In the Mustang Transam there is a small collection of tropical birds!
Really, every time you accelerate there is this tiny three tones whistle that then repeats itself. I only hear it in one ear.
I wasn't that drunk.
(I know I know, racing cars have all kinds of funny little squeaks and noises you don't hear in padded customer cars and it's cool  :yep:)

[SJ]MrDee

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Re: P&G v2 out!!!!!!
« Reply #47 on: December 26, 2008, 12:45:38 pm »

Install went smooth. Having a blast. Thanks GTLW :hats off:


[SJ]Cato Larsen

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Re: P&G v2 out!!!!!!
« Reply #48 on: December 26, 2008, 01:01:48 pm »
I would love to have an ALL CLASS league in this P&G.
Might be a league I actually will try to join and race.

I have so little time left for gaming, but P&G is something that I will make room for.

Simple 5 round ALL CLASS league for a test run....

Not my table though, just leaving it in the air.

[SJ]T Hez

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Re: P&G v2 out!!!!!!
« Reply #49 on: December 26, 2008, 01:41:19 pm »
Absolutely fantastic work by GTLW  thumbs up
I'm sure there is some great league racing to come with these beauties.
Thank you very much gentlemen  :hats off:

[SJ]Von T

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Re: P&G v2 out!!!!!!
« Reply #50 on: December 26, 2008, 02:23:38 pm »
What about som fun runs?

[SJ]DaveGardner

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Re: P&G v2 out!!!!!!
« Reply #51 on: December 26, 2008, 04:30:16 pm »
i like the dashboards which now light up as they should,so night races should look awesome, only tried a few cars but they are very authentic,the jag mk2 4.2ltr is now very very good and drives as  it should,very heavy on the front end,but it is superb.

can't wait for the next releases of the gtc's and 70's cars.

great work GTLW


Dave

[SJ]Kristof Huyck

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Re: P&G v2 out!!!!!!
« Reply #52 on: December 26, 2008, 05:44:03 pm »
Now Kristof.. when do we get PnG rank?  :biggrin:


There is already one, it's part of the gtr2rank: http://gtr2.gplrank.info/viewTopTenPGLaptimes (looks like Caspar already uploaded there  :finger:)
ATM it's release 1 cars only, but I guess it will get updated soon? Otherwise I'll sent a mail to the admins.
I can admin at GTR2rank too it seems, so adding tracks, removing fake laptimes, ... is no problem   :biggrin:

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Re: P&G v2 out!!!!!!
« Reply #53 on: December 26, 2008, 06:29:47 pm »
Ive been reading this thread and getting very frightened READ THIS FIRST, DO IT IN THIS ORDER, DELETE THAT, VANILLA THE BLOODY OTHER, DO YOU REALLY WANT TO DO THAT?  :hick: Anyway i got the packs, unpacked em and copied them over and ive just come off the server
RESULT  phwoar :excited:
:ted:
PS: Not sure about the load screen taking over the game though

[SJ]DenDanger

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Re: P&G v2 out!!!!!!
« Reply #54 on: December 26, 2008, 06:48:34 pm »
i like the dashboards which now light up as they should,so night races should look awesome.

great work GTLW


Dave


 Oh my. Wonder if my PC can handle it. *rubs hands in anticipation*

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Re: P&G v2 out!!!!!!
« Reply #55 on: December 26, 2008, 07:24:34 pm »
Quote from: Ted
PS: Not sure about the load screen taking over the game though


Yeah, but your old load screen hasn't been deleted, if you look in your GTR2 folder, you'll see its backed up, so you can remove the P&G one and replace it with the back up if you want.

But I reckon it's better to treat P&G as a new game and have a bespoke P&G/GTR2 install...  in which case the custom load screen makes sense.

 :)

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Re: P&G v2 out!!!!!!
« Reply #56 on: December 26, 2008, 07:25:11 pm »
I've got this puppy installed.  Doing a few things now.  However I will be around tonight. 

Veeerroooom!

[SJ]Stein

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Re: P&G v2 out!!!!!!
« Reply #57 on: December 26, 2008, 07:34:40 pm »
I've got this puppy installed.  Doing a few things now.  However I will be around tonight. 

Veeerroooom!


whot? you've found your wheel back?



Woof ~ Woof

that'd be great!  lol

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Re: P&G v2 out!!!!!!
« Reply #58 on: December 26, 2008, 08:37:47 pm »

PS: Not sure about the load screen taking over the game though


i actually prefer the way they've done the whole loading screen and ui thiny-me-jigs,very nice

the handling of the cars is 1st class,i'm loving it thus far.

Dave

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Re: P&G v2 out!!!!!!
« Reply #59 on: December 26, 2008, 08:59:27 pm »

PS: Not sure about the load screen taking over the game though


i actually prefer the way they've done the whole loading screen and ui thiny-me-jigs,very nice

the handling of the cars is 1st class,i'm loving it thus far.

Dave

Agree about the Mod, but im an old fart and change scares me  :wall:

[SJ]Jarkko Rantajoki

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Re: P&G v2 out!!!!!!
« Reply #60 on: December 26, 2008, 09:42:21 pm »
Im working on some new addboards for default GTR2 tracks, its a big job but im gonna do at least couple.. Anderstorp under work atm.. I dont really like those LG etc modern adboards, i want something bit more vintage.. (not historically correct though, but should add to the atmosphere)

[SJ]CasparGTL

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Re: P&G v2 out!!!!!!
« Reply #61 on: December 26, 2008, 11:34:55 pm »
I dont really like those LG etc modern adboards,


I had the exact same thought when we were at Oschersleben last night.  thumbs up

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Re: P&G v2 out!!!!!!
« Reply #62 on: December 26, 2008, 11:39:42 pm »
Oi, I cannot find my online key!!!

ARRRRGGGHHHHH!!!!

Looking... 

There's some racing going on now.  Get on vent, and get on the track!

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Re: P&G v2 out!!!!!!
« Reply #63 on: December 26, 2008, 11:56:13 pm »
I've looked in every corner of my home.  I cannot find the damned case that had my online code on it.  :(

I've Emailed viva-media and asked for a new one.  Let the wait begin.

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Re: P&G v2 out!!!!!!
« Reply #64 on: December 27, 2008, 12:28:36 am »
Brilliant.  Downloaded and installed perfectly.  I really like the installer options, very nice touch.

Just been on the SJ server with six or seven other folk and a fair bit of joining, leaving and car swapping going on, and I'm happy to report there hasn't been a single CTD.

Everything about the P&G says attention to detail.  Love it.

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Re: P&G v2 out!!!!!!
« Reply #65 on: December 27, 2008, 12:41:52 am »
I even alt-tabbed to desktop several times without a problem!

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« Reply #66 on: December 27, 2008, 12:56:46 am »
I even alt-tabbed to desktop several times without a problem!


It's indeed far more stable than the latest beta (wonder what's the difference  :?:) I had one CTD when I tried to leave the server as the track surface was just gone at places lol

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Re: P&G v2 out!!!!!!
« Reply #67 on: December 27, 2008, 01:42:33 am »
one CTD tonight, but fun racing!  thumbs up

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Re: P&G v2 out!!!!!!
« Reply #68 on: December 27, 2008, 03:19:33 am »
Not a single crash for me, smooth as silk. :)

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« Reply #69 on: December 27, 2008, 03:38:42 am »
I even alt-tabbed to desktop several times without a problem!



I drove the Ferrari 250 SWB Competition and the Elan 26r and it was really fun.  thumbs up

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Re: P&G v2 out!!!!!!
« Reply #70 on: December 27, 2008, 09:24:15 am »
i had an issue where it kept CTD whenever i tried to join using the one of the ferrari' but then it sorted itself out  and was as good as gold.

i tried a number of different cars,and it is great.

needs a bit of getting used to but it's ace.

Dave

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Re: P&G v2 out!!!!!!
« Reply #71 on: December 27, 2008, 11:45:44 am »
put it on a fresh install and it runs perfect. P&G Alpine no less i do believe im in heaven  :excited: :excited: :excited: :excited: :excited: :excited: :excited: :excited: :excited: :excited: :excited:
thanks GTLW  :ty:

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Re: P&G v2 out!!!!!!
« Reply #72 on: December 27, 2008, 12:42:09 pm »
A couple of CTDs for me, but seemingly for no discernible reason, really enjoyed driving with you guys again, made even better by the fact that I WON (maybe because i had the fastest car on track)
Great stuff fellas
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Re: P&G v2 out!!!!!!
« Reply #73 on: December 27, 2008, 12:49:01 pm »
A couple of CTDs for me, but seemingly for no discernible reason, really enjoyed driving with you guys again, made even better by the fact that I WON (maybe because i had the fastest car on track)
Great stuff fellas
:ted:


 YAY!!! P&G brought Tedz back to us!! It's the miracle of Christmas!! thumbs up

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Re: P&G v2 out!!!!!!
« Reply #74 on: December 27, 2008, 12:52:28 pm »
i have been loving/hating PnG2 so far.  Loving its attention to detail and the amount of research and work that went into it.  Hating the brakes and frustration of trying to get some of the cars to turn, but that is what will have my loving it even more once i come to grips with it. :)  :)

i also have had many CTD's.  im going to add "-trace=100" to the command line of my PnG2 shortcut to see if it will create logs explaining the failures.

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« Reply #75 on: December 27, 2008, 06:09:00 pm »
Hey Gator,

GTR2 tends to have many CTD's.  Try to avoid alt tabbing.  Also switching cars in GTR2 and going back to track repeatedly has been known to cause it to crash. 

GTR2 is a dirty bugger.

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Re: P&G v2 out!!!!!!
« Reply #76 on: December 27, 2008, 08:05:22 pm »
i have been loving/hating PnG2 so far.  Loving its attention to detail and the amount of research and work that went into it.  Hating the brakes and frustration of trying to get some of the cars to turn, but that is what will have my loving it even more once i come to grips with it. :)  :)

i also have had many CTD's.  im going to add "-trace=100" to the command line of my PnG2 shortcut to see if it will create logs explaining the failures.


Regarding the CTD's Marcus has it right, plus, I hope you select option 1 or 2 of the installer and not 3. The last one can give problems as explained on the installer.
Also it seems that GTR2 put's quite some stress on the gfx chips, lot's of people had success by making the gfx card fans work more than the default settings

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Re: P&G v2 out!!!!!!
« Reply #77 on: December 27, 2008, 09:06:05 pm »
 I know, I've found it often crashes to desktop the first time I use a track. Just after the loading screen. Then it's fine after that. Just something I've learned to get used to.

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Re: P&G v2 out!!!!!!
« Reply #78 on: December 27, 2008, 11:19:37 pm »
found a small bug while running the #19 Green Valvoline Porsche 914-6 the rear view mirror is reversed, had a few GT40s passing me tonight, mirrors said left but the passed on right  :hats off:
the mirrors aside i might add that its bloody great fun to drive arounf mid ohio, steinways all the way  :funk:

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« Reply #79 on: January 05, 2009, 06:46:54 pm »
Tracks researching accomplished :),

... and my recommendations for P&G:


1977Mosport
Mechwerk'67
Road America
Le Mans77'-'79
Mid Ohio
Goodwood
Aintree
Crystal Palace
Snetterton'64
Zandvoort'67
Monaco'79
Osterreichring'79
Kyalami'79
Zolder'79
Spa'67
Dijon'79
Long Beach'79
Watkins Glen
Daytona Road Course
Albi'67
Brands Hatch-old
Oulton Park  (3 layouts)
Rouen
Riverside
Virginia 

many of them are available at download section here, but some other could be downloaded from nogripracing.

Happy driving all :)

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Re: P&G v2 out!!!!!!
« Reply #80 on: January 05, 2009, 07:12:41 pm »
Looks like a fun trip there Milan!  thumbs up

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Re: P&G v2 out!!!!!!
« Reply #81 on: January 05, 2009, 07:16:19 pm »
well thats season 3 sorted when do we start PETE!  :biggrin:

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« Reply #82 on: January 05, 2009, 07:32:16 pm »
Peter's busy auditing the butties and counting the pies...  I think we may have a new kid on the P&G block.

 :)

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Re: P&G v2 out!!!!!!
« Reply #83 on: January 05, 2009, 07:40:40 pm »
its all good, pies and PnG, now theres an evening to remember.  thumbs up

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Re: P&G v2 out!!!!!!
« Reply #84 on: January 05, 2009, 07:44:47 pm »
I'll tell thee what, if you folk fancy putting a few likely cars to Milan's track selection I'll put the schedule together this weekend (before if I can) and we can start rolling PDQ. :)
There's an awful lot more cars to chose from this time and for me to go through each track with an assortment of cars will take an age... so put some suggestions together and we can get the ball rolling (leave it!)


edit: Just caught up on my reading and things are afoot... P&G will be starting soon ... so disregard the above :)
« Last Edit: January 05, 2009, 09:14:28 pm by [SJ]Pierre61 »

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Re: P&G v2 out!!!!!!
« Reply #85 on: January 05, 2009, 08:13:18 pm »
Just a quick hint which I have found out the hard way.  The other night, my game refused to load up following a CTD; turned out I had to reinstall the game.  However, I followed a thread which advised that the mod sometimes seems to "forget" it is GTR2 v1.1, and the program can be restored by re-applying patch v1.1.  The problem is that the patch resets the user interface, which means that you cannot access all of the settings necessary to set the cars up.  I would recommend that you back up the "UIData" folder, which can then be reinstated if you suffer this particular issue.

Haven't read all of this thread, so I'm sorry if I am preaching to the choir.   

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« Reply #86 on: January 05, 2009, 08:26:48 pm »
I'll tell thee what, if you folk fancy putting a few likely cars to Milan's track selection I'll put the schedule together this weekend (before if I can) and we can start rolling PDQ. :)
There's an awful lot more cars to chose from this time and for me to go through each track with an assortment of cars will take an age... so put some suggestions together and we can get the ball rolling (leave it!)


edit: Just cought up on my reading and things are afoot... P&G will be starting soon ... so disregard the above :)


More details to follow soon ;)

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Re: P&G v2 out!!!!!!
« Reply #87 on: January 05, 2009, 08:37:59 pm »
Now Kris... we don't want you to lose sight of the fact that some of us are mere mortals, so no GT40's at a Cycle Lane with forced foot-steering (auto clutch allowed) OK  :)

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« Reply #88 on: January 05, 2009, 10:44:24 pm »
Come on Dave.  Don't pretend you're not fond of a hard one now and again!

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Re: P&G v2 out!!!!!!
« Reply #89 on: January 05, 2009, 10:53:31 pm »
Vicious with it too .. he's rear-ended me more than once!

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« Reply #90 on: January 05, 2009, 11:23:05 pm »
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Vicious with it too .. he's rear-ended me more than once!


Yeah.  He complains a lot, but he always manages to pull out something spectacular for the big finish.

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Re: P&G v2 out!!!!!!
« Reply #91 on: January 06, 2009, 12:00:21 am »
A session with Dave always starts off with plenty of choke and then lots of clutch control.

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Re: P&G v2 out!!!!!!
« Reply #92 on: January 06, 2009, 12:57:41 am »
Just a quick hint which I have found out the hard way.  The other night, my game refused to load up following a CTD; turned out I had to reinstall the game.  However, I followed a thread which advised that the mod sometimes seems to "forget" it is GTR2 v1.1, and the program can be restored by re-applying patch v1.1.  The problem is that the patch resets the user interface, which means that you cannot access all of the settings necessary to set the cars up.  I would recommend that you back up the "UIData" folder, which can then be reinstated if you suffer this particular issue.

Haven't read all of this thread, so I'm sorry if I am preaching to the choir.   


please link us to said thread Dave, i have had setup anomalies from day 1, like the line at the end of 4th gear in setup menu deciding it wants to carry on to the left hand side of my monitor  :?:
i also had a hard reboot the other night during the P&G alfatina and once my PC had rebooted. my user profile(of which i had only 1 on a fresh GTR2/P&G install) had reset back to its default state, controller settings,driver aids, everything back to default.  :?:
any insight would be useful im sure.

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« Reply #93 on: January 06, 2009, 07:09:15 pm »
A session with Dave always starts off with plenty of choke and then lots of clutch control.

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Yeah.  He complains a lot, but he always manages to pull out something spectacular for the big finish.


RIGHT! I've had enough of your innuendo! Next time I see you lot, I'm going to get the gloves on, and pummel all three of you in the ring!   :knockout: Ahhh bollocks!

As for the thread, Lee; see reply 54 by HR186S here http://simjunkies.org/Forum/pandg-techinical-support/very-very-important-about-pandg2/msg150929/#msg150929

Discussion at no grip is here: http://www.nogripracing.com/forum/showthread.php?t=40379

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« Reply #94 on: January 14, 2009, 11:16:02 pm »
It looks like my previous problems were hardware related conflicts, while I could play GTR2 and any other mods fine, it didn't work with P&G 2.

Now with differant hardware and the exact same install of gtr2 w/ p&g, it works fine, joined online and drove a few laps, no ctd's. Interesting!

Maybe it's an ati/nvidia thing? I went from ati to nvidia, will test more and see if any other problems arise.

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« Reply #95 on: January 14, 2009, 11:40:53 pm »
It looks like my previous problems were hardware related conflicts, while I could play GTR2 and any other mods fine, it didn't work with P&G 2.

Now with differant hardware and the exact same install of gtr2 w/ p&g, it works fine, joined online and drove a few laps, no ctd's. Interesting!

Maybe it's an ati/nvidia thing? I went from ati to nvidia, will test more and see if any other problems arise.


I've got an ati/amd HD4870 and I've got no special problems (just the odd CTD like many others) and I'm sure there are more people having ati/amd graphics cards that are 'perfectly' able to play the mod. Of course it could be a problem with a specific type of graphics cards or the specific driver you used, but it's certainly not a general ATI problem.

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« Reply #96 on: January 14, 2009, 11:56:25 pm »
It looks like my previous problems were hardware related conflicts, while I could play GTR2 and any other mods fine, it didn't work with P&G 2.

Now with differant hardware and the exact same install of gtr2 w/ p&g, it works fine, joined online and drove a few laps, no ctd's. Interesting!

Maybe it's an ati/nvidia thing? I went from ati to nvidia, will test more and see if any other problems arise.


I've got an ati/amd HD4870 and I've got no special problems (just the odd CTD like many others) and I'm sure there are more people having ati/amd graphics cards that are 'perfectly' able to play the mod. Of course it could be a problem with a specific type of graphics cards or the specific driver you used, but it's certainly not a general ATI problem.


Heres one, HD 4850 no problems whatsoever.

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« Reply #97 on: January 15, 2009, 12:42:16 am »
It looks like my previous problems were hardware related conflicts, while I could play GTR2 and any other mods fine, it didn't work with P&G 2.

Now with differant hardware and the exact same install of gtr2 w/ p&g, it works fine, joined online and drove a few laps, no ctd's. Interesting!

Maybe it's an ati/nvidia thing? I went from ati to nvidia, will test more and see if any other problems arise.


I've got an ati/amd HD4870 and I've got no special problems (just the odd CTD like many others) and I'm sure there are more people having ati/amd graphics cards that are 'perfectly' able to play the mod. Of course it could be a problem with a specific type of graphics cards or the specific driver you used, but it's certainly not a general ATI problem.

same card here and yes odd CTD but no more than GTR2 ever did.

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« Reply #98 on: January 15, 2009, 07:21:39 pm »
It looks like my previous problems were hardware related conflicts, while I could play GTR2 and any other mods fine, it didn't work with P&G 2.

Now with differant hardware and the exact same install of gtr2 w/ p&g, it works fine, joined online and drove a few laps, no ctd's. Interesting!

Maybe it's an ati/nvidia thing? I went from ati to nvidia, will test more and see if any other problems arise.


I've got an ati/amd HD4870 and I've got no special problems (just the odd CTD like many others) and I'm sure there are more people having ati/amd graphics cards that are 'perfectly' able to play the mod. Of course it could be a problem with a specific type of graphics cards or the specific driver you used, but it's certainly not a general ATI problem.


Yes, sorry I didn't elaborate.

x800gto, same card as Jeff (HPI-rcr), both of us having identical problems no matter which drivers we tried. Or maybe it was just a fluke, who knows. rofl