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[SJ]Jarkko Rantajoki

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Had my first run.. the game looks nice, sounds nice, runs nice..
Just feels little bit odd.. its not the steering its the physics.

1.05,3 at Lime Rock in Rookie Solstice for the first try, looking forward for next run.

EDIT:1.04,8 on the second run.. i have time trial session about now.. pretty fun so far.
« Last Edit: August 06, 2008, 06:00:41 pm by [SJ]Jarkko Rantajoki »

[SJ]Kristof Huyck

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Re: more iRacing experiences and random chatting about dis and dat topid
« Reply #1 on: August 06, 2008, 06:06:37 pm »
I've received an invite too (thanks Marcus) and I'm eager to test this, but I'm working on a solution for fixing my G25 now... if it doesn't progress fast enough I'll buy a second G25.

[SJ]Jarkko Rantajoki

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Re: more iRacing experiences and random chatting about dis and dat topid
« Reply #2 on: August 06, 2008, 06:37:12 pm »
Hmm, after 2 prac session, i tried my first time trial. 1:04.196 was the fastest lap with the rookie solstice at Lime Rock.

[SJ]Jett

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Re: more iRacing experiences and random chatting about dis and dat topid
« Reply #3 on: August 06, 2008, 07:25:36 pm »
thats a great lap already Jarkko.

What is off on the physics?

[SJ]Jarkko Rantajoki

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Re: more iRacing experiences and random chatting about dis and dat topid
« Reply #4 on: August 06, 2008, 07:27:08 pm »
thats a great lap already Jarkko.

What is off on the physics?



Well, a bit how it rewards unrealistic driving, but nothing serious. I quite like it, maybe id like a tad more feedback through wheel, but its nice.

[SJ]Jett

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Re: more iRacing experiences and random chatting about dis and dat topid
« Reply #5 on: August 06, 2008, 07:33:45 pm »
I will help you with the G25 setup..that is critical. It makes a huge difference.

[SJ]Jarkko Rantajoki

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Re: more iRacing experiences and random chatting about dis and dat topid
« Reply #6 on: August 06, 2008, 07:34:54 pm »
cool, ok

[SJ]Spike

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Re: more iRacing experiences and random chatting about dis and dat topid
« Reply #7 on: August 06, 2008, 07:38:15 pm »
Yea, just started messing with it today. Has soon has i turn my g25 slightly either direction the car wants to take off..i notice that about 5 degrees of rotation on my wheel simulates about 300 degrees in the game. Any help on this would be greatly appreicated for us newbs...

[SJ]Nodnerb

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Re: more iRacing experiences and random chatting about dis and dat topid
« Reply #8 on: August 06, 2008, 08:25:20 pm »
Now I have a dilemma to overcome. :-|

I too got an invite in the mail  :biggrin: but I see it is only valid for 30 days  :( I was thinking if I had the invite I could join at my leisure when my racing calendar calms down a bit. 

I really want to give this a go, but from what I have read, it sounds like something I could get really hooked on   :)to the detriment of my other racing,  :( which I don't want to compromise as I have so much fun with you guys here.  thumbs up

The cost is a consideration here, as the NZ dollar is no worldwide currency powerhouse and it does not buy a lot and when you have to pay in US dollars, but a few hundred kiwi dollars is not the end of the world.

Hmmmm what to do, maybe I will flip a coin... heads I give it a miss for a while, tails I get a divorce  lol

[SJ]MBMAC

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Re: more iRacing experiences and random chatting about dis and dat topid
« Reply #9 on: August 06, 2008, 09:54:14 pm »
The email arrived....ooohhhhh, i think.  :rush: straight into it and get it installed, which went well no hitches updated etc,etc

go through the set process gfx, wheel etc,etc straight forward...no probs at all  thumbs up

very well done it is, servers spot on...no lag, very good pings..no probs there either  :nope:

very good the in game voip..nice touch,  although codec is pish  thumbs up

BUT


hmm....i have to say, after a couple of hours at it...get bumped off track n penalised for it, i'm not to impressed to be honest. Not to disimpressed either ( is disimpressed a word)  :?:

it isn't much better than what i have played before...if better at all,  FFB not that good for me.

the lack of being able to set car up is a bummer...this is in the solstice dunno if you can as a rookie in other cars...or they just don't want to give anyone to much of an advantage.

It looks nice...but thought i would be able to run it better with 4 gig black dragon ram and 1 gig gfx card...but i may be missing something  :dunno:

dunno what else to say about it..at this time, i have only tried the solstice at lime rock.

You guys who are right into this...DON'T take offence, this is just my general 1st impressions.
if it turns out to be that it is absolutely fantastic......i will be back to say that, humble pie n all that.

 :sorry: But i still won't change my mind about the subscription, no matter how good it is  :salute:

L8RZ

MB  :hats off:

[SJ]Jett

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Re: more iRacing experiences and random chatting about dis and dat topid
« Reply #10 on: August 06, 2008, 10:44:29 pm »
In regards to your FFB:

What wheel do you have? Are you running a wheel profiler? What are your settings in the sim?


In regards to the penalties..if you got bumped off by another car the ruling currently is that the system is a "no fault" system which means both drivers get a penalty and no one is specifically blamed. You can however protest it to iRacing if you feel its worth it.

If you got a penalty for going off ..then its trying to help you by showing you what you can do to be better. The penalties reduce as you go up in License rank.

[SJ]Eco

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Re: more iRacing experiences and random chatting about dis and dat topid
« Reply #11 on: August 07, 2008, 01:24:34 am »
It sounds pretty cool, I guess there's no demo. . .so I geuss you need an invite and to buy a subscription to try it out?

Marcus

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Re: more iRacing experiences and random chatting about dis and dat topid
« Reply #12 on: August 07, 2008, 02:29:56 am »
I geuss you need an invite and to buy a subscription to try it out?


You are right.  It's not 'publicly' released yet, so an invite is in order.  You might hit up Ski9600 for his invite if you desire one.  I don't think he's planning on using it now.

[SJ]linklemming

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Re: more iRacing experiences and random chatting about dis and dat topid
« Reply #13 on: August 07, 2008, 03:14:52 am »
Congrats on all the new rookies, although Jarrko doing a low 1:04 is no rookie to me :salute:.  I was right on the verge of breaking into the 1:04's before the new gearing change.  So what aspect of the physics do you find unrealistic???

Gary


[SJ]linklemming

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Re: more iRacing experiences and random chatting about dis and dat topid
« Reply #14 on: August 07, 2008, 03:21:00 am »
On the steering wheel/FFB do the following:

Windows settings:
900 degrees
Overall effects 99 or 101, not 100
Enable centering spring at zero
Everything else at 0

I like some centering string so I use 20%

Make sure to calibrate steering in game is it seems wacky/overly sensitive.  My calibration settings have changed a few times (dont know why).

Overall FFB strength ingame seems good at 14.

Gary


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Re: more iRacing experiences and random chatting about dis and dat topid
« Reply #15 on: August 07, 2008, 03:25:24 am »
MB,

I personally have no problems hearing your criticisms, I am not a 100% fan and nothing is ever perfect.

I didnt like it at first, well I did like it but thought it was not that different.

Might want to drop down shadows a notch or two, I am running 3840x1024 and am almost always above 100FPS with an 8800GTX, 2.4G Duo, 2 Gigs.

Gary

[SJ]linklemming

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Re: more iRacing experiences and random chatting about dis and dat topid
« Reply #16 on: August 07, 2008, 05:29:47 am »
FWIW guys, the FFB on the solstice is deadened just as it is on my miata due to power steering.

The skippy really highlights the FFB but its $15.

Perhaps you can try some roadcoarse laps in the legends car.

Gary

[SJ]Jarkko Rantajoki

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Re: more iRacing experiences and random chatting about dis and dat topid
« Reply #17 on: August 07, 2008, 05:34:42 am »
Im gonna buy the skippy soon. :)
When i get 1.03 at Lime Rock with the Rookie Solstice ill try the next thing.

[SJ]linklemming

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Re: more iRacing experiences and random chatting about dis and dat topid
« Reply #18 on: August 07, 2008, 05:58:01 am »
Went thru all the cars I have (solstice, legends, skippy and radical) and the skippy has the best FFB 'by far', followed by the radical, legends and solstice.

Its a dramatic difference to me, kind of a workout actually.  You really cant judge this sim without the skippy.

Gary


[SJ]Jarkko Rantajoki

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Re: more iRacing experiences and random chatting about dis and dat topid
« Reply #19 on: August 07, 2008, 06:34:26 am »
Well bought the Skippy, its pretty nice..
And won my first race, with 15 sec difference to pos.2 who was some licence D guy.
That was my second race, first one went all bollox cause i was polite and gave room, i went on a bad line and slooooowly slided off the track.. completely..
Well, still under 10 sessions done, but very promising fun game, and pure competition which suites
me.

[SJ]hOt6o4bOi

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Re: more iRacing experiences and random chatting about dis and dat topid
« Reply #20 on: August 07, 2008, 06:49:10 am »
w00000t got my invite
1st 15 min session seems promising, 1'04.9xx

steering a bit soft, gotta get use to it


finally figured out how to enter something other than test sessions

did my first ever time trial, 1'04.5 avg ~ with 1'03.905 and a 1'03.955 on my final 2 laps that didnt count
got me into 21st!
AJ Allmendinger is in first thats crazy, wonder if its really him

really getting the hang of it now, 1st day liking this so far!  :salute:
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[SJ]Jarkko Rantajoki

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Re: more iRacing experiences and random chatting about dis and dat topid
« Reply #21 on: August 07, 2008, 12:13:29 pm »
Bought Skip Barber, Infineon Raceway and Virginia International Raceway..
Its propably the best "sim", too bad its under dictatorship.

[SJ]Jarkko Rantajoki

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Re: more iRacing experiences and random chatting about dis and dat topid
« Reply #22 on: August 07, 2008, 12:31:40 pm »

did my first ever time trial, 1'04.5 avg
got me into 21st!



grr im tenth down in average, in pos 29. Aiming for the first page today if i have time to race enuff.

Marcus

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Re: more iRacing experiences and random chatting about dis and dat topid
« Reply #23 on: August 07, 2008, 12:48:33 pm »
Yep it's the real AJ :)

You guys are quick.  Well done. 

[SJ]Jarkko Rantajoki

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Re: more iRacing experiences and random chatting about dis and dat topid
« Reply #24 on: August 07, 2008, 01:32:45 pm »
Wow, had an amazing race.. thrilling lapped traffic.. and whole race within a second to the leader..
sometimes side by side.. lapping with wicked maneuvres to gain any advantage or lose as little as possible... damnit.. heated battle if there ever was one. Lost with 0,3 secs in the end..
but i dont even care.. if i get battles like that.. damn..
:)

EDIT:Apparently SR also went up by 50.. so now i can run advanced stuff.

[SJ]linklemming

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Re: more iRacing experiences and random chatting about dis and dat topid
« Reply #25 on: August 07, 2008, 01:48:01 pm »
Good times all you rookies lol  I am humbled.  Did some TT's to up my SR and finally saw a best time of 1:04 with LR/solstice.  The new gearing seemd slower but once you get used to running 4th gear for most of the course, me thinks the new solstice is faster at least at LR.

Had some fun close races with this combo as well including one finish which I almost snagged the position at the finish line.  Backed off 3 corners from end and really planned on maximixing exit speed and it almost worked.

Gary

[SJ]Spike

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Re: more iRacing experiences and random chatting about dis and dat topid
« Reply #26 on: August 07, 2008, 01:57:10 pm »
you lucky dog....still working on my rookie stuff

[SJ]Jarkko Rantajoki

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Re: more iRacing experiences and random chatting about dis and dat topid
« Reply #27 on: August 07, 2008, 02:09:11 pm »
Managed to drop my Rookie Solstice @ Lime Rock 8 lap average to 1.04,2.. :)
Puts me on 16th position.. gotta wait till the session ends though to see my name up there me thinks?

EDIT:Hmm it shows in "Time Trial Results" but not in "season time trial".
Me wants my points!
lol

EDIT2:Was driving an amazing race, leading.. then some lapped traffic spun and rammed right into me, completely wrecked my car.. :(
« Last Edit: August 07, 2008, 03:20:01 pm by [SJ]Jarkko Rantajoki »

[SJ]AlarmedBread

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Re: more iRacing experiences and random chatting about dis and dat topid
« Reply #28 on: August 07, 2008, 03:31:10 pm »
I did some last night, first impressions were ehr...do you need to be the hulk to use FFB? I have 101% set in windows, and am down to 4 in game using a dfp. Feels OK now, guess I like mine on the light side. Then I felt the front was scrubbing so much and I re calibrated the steering which helped that, so now the car was feeling good and I could get down to business. I found it to be a rather gutless, somewhat heavy pig that likes to over steer if you aren't up on it. Hey, just like my car! :) I was quite impressed with it really, fun little car to drive. Did some testing around all the tracks and then decided to have a go online qualifying. Got going with a dozen or so others on track, did my out lap and then someone jumped out of the pits and straight in front of me in the braking zone, managed to avoid them by the narrowest of margins, but then got punted mid corner. Nice, 2 laps and already my car is wrecked. :( Got back to it and did an OK lap of 1'04.7, not my best but it will do. I did notice some very slight stutters during the quali session which continued during the race. Next race I started 3rd, judging from quali times it should be an interesting race. We set off and I was disappointed to see two cars connect and put each other off turn one. I ended up in 2nd and was about 3 seconds behind the leader for most of the race with a car behind slowly closing. The last five laps looked like they would be interesting, the leader got held up in traffic and I closed the gap to under a second. We had a three way battle going for a while, then I finally got around at the first turn. Shortly after my game stuttered badly, locked up for several seconds. I couldn't see anything, only hear my car sliding across grass, gravel and then impacting something, then something again very hard, then more very loud crashing noises. When the stutter ended, I was flipping end over end and over the wall. When it stuttered the game kept my last input, which was WOT and a slight right turn, sending me into the wall on the right, back onto the track and p2 hit me, flipping my car violently. To top it off, this was on the second to last lap. :(

Somehow my ratings went up anyway, so OK that's fine! On to the next race, I started 4th and witnessed another t1 crash, narrowly avoiding being collected I tried to keep my head and keep the leader in sight, he had a couple seconds lead now and I was closing in the opening laps. Racing with the car behind me on my tail, he tries to make a pass turn one and locks a wheel up, smacking me and causing us both to spin. I get right back on track and see if I can fit my hand out the window netting to flip him off. Now back to 4th I start charging hard to make up the ground I lost and find myself in an excellent battle for 3rd. A good 5 laps of following someone right on their bumper, but not enough to pass and I didn't want to try to out brake in turn one since I wasn't comfortable enough with the brakes to know I wouldn't lock them and cause a crash. I got lucky and he put it into the grass after turn 4, so I could cruise right by. Now I had 5 laps to make up 5 seconds on the leader. Hmm..yeah right, the stutters were back too. 2nd is a very good finish, cruise control on, don't spin it! This paid off and some lap traffic helped to close the gap, as he started to push harder to keep me off his tail he did a very kind thing. Pulled right off the track turn one (facing backwards for some reason) and just let me by.

So far I like the game, but I have no idea why would it stutter only online? whether there is a car near me or not it does this, no matter the video settings on high or low. Frame rates don't change, it just stutters and I head a crackle/blip in the sound (like when someone keys their mic on/off fast in vent) Going to look further into that problem because it seriously hinders the online experience.

[SJ]Jett

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Re: more iRacing experiences and random chatting about dis and dat topid
« Reply #29 on: August 07, 2008, 06:14:06 pm »
Alarmed Bread...what is your ingame FFB set at. Probably shouldn't be more than 8-12 in iRacing. Try that and see if that works.

[SJ]GT_Raycer

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Re: more iRacing experiences and random chatting about dis and dat topid
« Reply #30 on: August 07, 2008, 06:56:55 pm »
I got my invitation yesterday.  thumbs up But, I had to work last night.  thumbs down

So, I downloaded + installed everything this morning.  thumbs up But, I have to work tonight.  thumbs down

I won't get to test it until tomorrow sometime. (After I finish reading the last 23 pages of the Sporting Code)  :-|

[SJ]AlarmedBread

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Re: more iRacing experiences and random chatting about dis and dat topid
« Reply #31 on: August 07, 2008, 07:16:08 pm »
OK I fixed my stutter by putting the frame limiter back on 51fps. All good now! (except I just got wrecked out of a race :( )

[SJ]Dammit

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Re: more iRacing experiences and random chatting about dis and dat topid
« Reply #32 on: August 07, 2008, 09:38:49 pm »
hmm....i have to say, after a couple of hours at it...get bumped off track n penalised for it, i'm not to impressed to be honest. Not to disimpressed either ( is disimpressed a word)  :?:
it isn't much better than what i have played before...if better at all,  FFB not that good for me.


My 'first' thoughts to, after all the hype I found the whole experience a bit disappointing, sure the physic's feel good but beyond that I don't think there is enough new stuff here to convince me to lay down more cash to buy the Skippy and to keep renting this game.  At the end of the day laser scanned tracks and cars, are just tracks and cars.

Only day 1 of 30, so it's highly likely my opinion will change...    :biggrin:
 

 

[SJ]Jarkko Rantajoki

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Re: more iRacing experiences and random chatting about dis and dat topid
« Reply #33 on: August 08, 2008, 06:49:22 pm »
Hmm trying to get my ratings to 4.00, i wanna race the road legends.

Ive been doing mostly ovals tonight, but advanced Solstice is also very tempting.. argh..
so much to race. :D

[SJ]GPI Steve

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Re: more iRacing experiences and random chatting about dis and dat topid
« Reply #34 on: August 08, 2008, 07:09:02 pm »
I'm trying to get my rating back to 2.5 :|
First impressions i like the sim but i hate the solstice... i'm not gonna rush this and haven't even raced yet.. just time trialed no rush. The UI is really good

[SJ]Cato Larsen

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Re: more iRacing experiences and random chatting about dis and dat topid
« Reply #35 on: August 08, 2008, 07:29:07 pm »
Dammit, I hate myself for going agains all my principals, but I wanna try this buggered game.
I dunno why, I hate the money grabbing, I love a good sime. Listening to the people in here makes me wanna waste money.


i hate you all lol lol

[SJ]Jarkko Rantajoki

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Re: more iRacing experiences and random chatting about dis and dat topid
« Reply #36 on: August 08, 2008, 07:44:12 pm »
I had a great race in Rookie Solstice, full race pushin hard, made a pb 1.03,7.. another Finn following me really close.. then last lap... lapped traffic simply blocks me and the other guy gets right on my bumber.. then i fail the exit of last corner.. and the bugger passed me! But it was cool.. ive taken few wins here and there and also got some decent results on qualifys and time trials.. Ive done both Rookie and Advanced versions of Legends and Solstice today.

[SJ]Dammit

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Re: more iRacing experiences and random chatting about dis and dat topid
« Reply #37 on: August 09, 2008, 10:55:14 am »

Only day 1 of 30, so it's highly likely my opinion will change...    :biggrin:
 



Really starting to like this game now, fair to say it's bloody highly addictive!!!  next race in 8mins...rating now 3.60... must be strong, can't go back... need to practice GTR2 and rFactor!!!  :argh:

[SJ]Jarkko Rantajoki

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Re: more iRacing experiences and random chatting about dis and dat topid
« Reply #38 on: August 09, 2008, 10:59:55 am »

Only day 1 of 30, so it's highly likely my opinion will change...    :biggrin:
 



Really starting to like this game now, fair to say it's bloody highly addictive!!!  next race in 8mins...rating now 3.60... must be strong, can't go back... need to practice GTR2 and rFactor!!!  :argh:


heheh just how i feel too..

[SJ]Jarkko Rantajoki

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Re: more iRacing experiences and random chatting about dis and dat topid
« Reply #39 on: August 10, 2008, 11:36:16 am »
Has anyone else noticed how smooth it is to lap on the limit?
I mean, the feel of cars is so good that its not too tough to make time trial results with
the average lap time being only 0,1-0.2 off your pb.. Same goes for racing.. i also love how the drag effect works, never had as much fun in a game trying to maximise my performance.. Sad to notice how much faster guys there are allready though, yet when it goes public there will be even more..
But its of course great to battle for top50 time trial etc. positions, but i feel this game has lot of potential to improve my driving to the next level. It propably will take lot of time and practice but im sure its doing lot of good for my driving..
Yes.. im definitely loving iRacing.
lol

Now all we need is more cars that appeal to european tastes.

[SJ]MBMAC

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Re: more iRacing experiences and random chatting about dis and dat topid
« Reply #40 on: August 10, 2008, 02:10:41 pm »
well...i have been playing this all week and i am now at the unimpressed stage...i'm afraid  :yep:

1st of all....it's not a new race sim, it's a re-work of a 10 years old GPL code and now that i have played both games i can see that. it's just a touch up on a 10 years old game and didn't papyrus try subscription gaming 10 or so years ago too? dunno not sure  :think:

2nd i play all week on a rookie basis and i get my 3.0 in road at lime rock...sick of feckin lookin at that track, so i can use the advanced solstice...wtf is advanced about it  :dunno:...you can change toe in and tyre temps  lol

and to top it all off..i go to play advanced solstice last night and it's on f*ckin lime rock, sod that seen enough of that track.

so i go to advanced legends...it's the same, you can mess with tyre temps and toe in, oh a new track...woohoo, check it out and it's another tiny boring half mile oval...can't even remember what it was called.  :nope: man was i pissed...shut it down and went and played Rfactor  :yep:

 :sorry: but i don't like to be dictated to what track i can race or car for that matter...it's like any other public server too..it called rookies so guess what you come across a lot of....yep, you guessed it ROOKIES...which for me is ok, i don't really mind, others might though.

i do understand why people like the game though...it can when u first get it be quite addictive, i also feel it is totally aimed at the american market, cars and track wise although... that i guess will change if it continues to grow and more content added.

At this stage in the month...only a week into it, i would not be renewing it, no, no, no  :nope:
my view may change by the end of the month, i doubt it...but it might  :dunno:

i am however still slightly confused by the game...i like some things about the game and don't like others, i guess i will just wait till end of my month and weigh up the pro's and con's of it and decide then. 

L8RZ

MB  :salute:

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« Reply #41 on: August 10, 2008, 02:25:43 pm »
 :sorry: i only complained in last post  :tut:

there are some good things about it too....i like the whole interface thingy set up, once you figure out how to use it, the stats and stuff are good. i don't really give a shit about all that kind of stuff but...for people that do, it's excellent.

 the tracks are excellent very well done indeed  thumbs up the cars also look nice and are well done
the game runs smooth and not a glitch in sight...which is always good  :yep:

all being in the same car is good...and making a mistake is bad...very hard to catch up unless mistakes are made.

all in all i would say it's a pretty good game. i'm just not sure it's my type of game. it is a game though not a simulation imo  :salute:


[SJ]Kristof Huyck

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Re: more iRacing experiences and random chatting about dis and dat topid
« Reply #42 on: August 10, 2008, 02:32:32 pm »
all in all i would say it's a pretty good game. i'm just not sure it's my type of game. it is a game though not a simulation imo  :salute:


Everything we play (GTL, rF, Race07, ...) are simulation games imo, I don't see any difference with iRacing.

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Re: more iRacing experiences and random chatting about dis and dat topid
« Reply #43 on: August 10, 2008, 02:42:28 pm »
except it costs a lot more Kristof :)

man a few people are taking it very seriously, i got a puncture at laguna on the 2nd last lap ( must be my wayward driving style), so was try to type a message to tell people behind me, that i was a hazard, roflol, clipped a guy at the corkscrew by accident and he got well upset, apparently i cost him 3 damage points, like in the long run that will make his life so hard.

i think the points system / control system, is not working how it was intended, i have seen a post saying if you think your going to spin, drive of the track it costs you less points, if i spin when i know i'm not going to hit anyone and stay on the track i think that is control.


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Re: more iRacing experiences and random chatting about dis and dat topid
« Reply #44 on: August 10, 2008, 02:56:27 pm »

[SJ]Jarkko Rantajoki

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Re: more iRacing experiences and random chatting about dis and dat topid
« Reply #45 on: August 10, 2008, 03:27:42 pm »
Ive almost maxed out my safety ratings, and have more than enough to race on now. :)
The point of dictating what you can run is the fact that its supposed to be a competition, rather than a regular simulation. You still can practice any combo you like. I guess i will list my likes and dislikes.

+++++Gooooood++++++

Quality of tracks
Quality of cars
Quality of the whole system (works supersmooth, and is very well thought out)
Racing (ive had as many great battles during these 4 days as i have on my whole "career" before i Racing)
Overall attitude of people
Constant development
Dictating what you can race (Youll learn better, and have better races that way)
Safety rating system (sometimes not perfect, but of course it needs compromises to exist, top notch)
Physics (theres no other game that you feel the car better in, or feels more immersive)
Statistics (im a stat freak)
Price (Its not too much for this kinda quality service and content, our money makes it possible for them to add more content, and develop it constantly)
Web site based interface (You pick a session, see when it starts.. you browse the net or whatever  while waiting.. then just hop straight to the session..)
Graphics (the tracks have very nice amount of objects etc. Its not eyecandy, more like realistic look which really appeals to me.. and its not very heavy)

-------Baaaaaaad-------

Some features not yet implemented (blue flags and few others are still on their way)
Lack of adjustments (controls etc. need bit more options)
Unrealistic input methods allowed
More cars and tracks for european tastes needed (Yup.. its too American atm)
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[SJ]Cato Larsen

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Re: more iRacing experiences and random chatting about dis and dat topid
« Reply #46 on: August 10, 2008, 07:22:48 pm »
Well, just to have a say.


The game is good. Physics is good. Feel is good.

Playablility, well. I think this will be boring for me in a short matter of time. I hope to god I am wrong.


I think I need more addons and NOT american addons.
I love everything about touringcars and Le Mans. Not sure if I ever gonna see that in iRacing.
I have only had 3 official races. 2 oval legends and 1 soltice laguna. The feel of everything is very nice.
I like the UI online thingy though. works fine. and NO Alt+Tab when you wanna do stuff.

I just hope there will be more variety when the game is finally going public. If not I am afraid that after a while, it will be more and more americans and less and less european guys in there.
Not saying this to diss the americans, but it just is not what I would like to drive.
Really not many US road tracks I find to appeling either. And definately not if you compare to european tracks.

But again. It is a good start, I just hope they spend our money wisely. VERY wisely.

[SJ]T Hez

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Re: more iRacing experiences and random chatting about dis and dat topid
« Reply #47 on: August 10, 2008, 07:35:14 pm »
The penalty thing sucks...
I managed to overtake someone during the final lap. Next braking zone he smashes into the back of my car.
I can just avoid spinning but I had to slow down because I had cut the track. The "gentleman" re-passed me so with that move he actually gained a position. Very nice  lol

[SJ]Jarkko Rantajoki

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Re: more iRacing experiences and random chatting about dis and dat topid
« Reply #48 on: August 10, 2008, 07:44:59 pm »
The penalty thing sucks...
I managed to overtake someone during the final lap. Next braking zone he smashes into the back of my car.
I can just avoid spinning but I had to slow down because I had cut the track. The "gentleman" re-passed me so with that move he actually gained a position. Very nice  lol


Rik you bugger, just above me in Laguna Time Trial.. the thing is youve done propably half the sessions i have. (at laguna i mean)  :grrr:

lol

[SJ]linklemming

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Re: more iRacing experiences and random chatting about dis and dat topid
« Reply #49 on: August 10, 2008, 07:47:23 pm »
Well, just to have a say.


The game is good. Physics is good. Feel is good.

Playablility, well. I think this will be boring for me in a short matter of time. I hope to god I am wrong.



I was just thinking that last night, I am going to commit to the skippy this season and possibly next and I can see where this will eventually get old.

Now if they could add all the GTL type cars, heck if they only added an alfa and cortina I would be happy.

All that being said, I can see where it is making my driving better as you just cant get away with things like you can with other sims at least IMHO.  I feel like I get into the 'zone' more in this game as driving at the limit is more involving to me.

Gary

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Re: more iRacing experiences and random chatting about dis and dat topid
« Reply #50 on: August 10, 2008, 07:49:55 pm »


Rik you bugger, just above me in Laguna Time Trial.. the thing is youve done propably half the sessions i have. (at laguna i mean)  :grrr:

lol
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I am really, really trying to sympathize here and its just not happening  lol lol

Its the same medicine you served us earlier this week lol lol

Gary

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Re: more iRacing experiences and random chatting about dis and dat topid
« Reply #51 on: August 10, 2008, 08:03:16 pm »
I have to say I was a bit lucky with that TT  :)
I'm still making small mistakes and I can't seem to get the braking right.
I was hoping to steal some lines or whatever (anything really) from the guy that won that first race I was in as he was doing low 1:48s  :?:
That was until I realised there was no qualify before the race (mm, so that's where those qualifying sessions are meant for)... So I had to start last and surprisingly I wasn't able to catch him  lol

[SJ]Jarkko Rantajoki

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Re: more iRacing experiences and random chatting about dis and dat topid
« Reply #52 on: August 10, 2008, 08:33:13 pm »
Well, pretty impressive with so little time playing the game nevertheless. :)

[SJ]Jett

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Re: more iRacing experiences and random chatting about dis and dat topid
« Reply #53 on: August 10, 2008, 08:57:29 pm »
As John Henry said recently about the finish of the second season of iRacing
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The sport of internet racing. This is the ground floor of something like this. Seems like an unique place to be and obviously it still is figuring out perfecting it. But what motorsport is perfect? Isn't it similar to F1 or Nascar where its one track for the week and thats it. I don't personally need more than that. I spent all last week working on the Skip Barber at Infineon and by the end of the week I had won some races and had improved my lap time down to 1.49 on occasion. In the past I would of raced whatever anyone was racing and never gotten good at any of them. I personally like the system because by the end of the week I can "see" the track before it gets to me. I think if we had F1 tracks that this system would be similar to what those real racers do.

I would like some other cars but if they are trying to replicate a real life career to online than this is a great system. Starting with slow cars and filtering out the crap drivers from good as you move up to faster and faster cars. I can see a leveling of talent already in the License C drivers. By the time the leveling up to a "B" License happens it will probably show dramatically the good from the backmarkers.  I will probably be a backmarker but I am using this to improve my race craft and its doing just that.

People seem to want faster cars sooner and all that seems to show is that they want to suck sooner. Most are people who think power will compensate for their complete lack of talent. Euro cars, american cars..whatever they have.. I have and will be mediocre at it. I just have figured that I don't have the guts to try and race at the absolute limit. Will I bitch and moan about Euro tracks or American tracks ..no ..I just want accurate tracks instead of some crap made by a 14 year old with Sandbox. I don't need fake car "physics" made by a guy reading off a wikipedia page and updating it every other week and calling it "Real". So far we have had very full fields and thats good enough for me to see that changing mods and physics packs every other day sucks the life out of any competitive league more than anything else.

Is there other stuff they could improve..sure. Will I bitch and moan..probably not. I have had great races with full fields and its teaching me how to be a better driver. I have lots to work to do for my "online career" and this seems like a great tool. I actually work on getting faster, running better lines and being careful of others more than I had previously.


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Re: more iRacing experiences and random chatting about dis and dat topid
« Reply #54 on: August 10, 2008, 09:05:31 pm »
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People seem to want faster cars sooner and all that seems to show is that they want to suck sooner


That's the truth.  It goes for me too.  I'm not ready for the skippy :(  So I've decided to go back to the Advanced Solstice for this season.  I can't get a TT in the Skip without losing some SR.  So I'm going the safe route.  Still should be fun though.

[SJ]Jarkko Rantajoki

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Re: more iRacing experiences and random chatting about dis and dat topid
« Reply #55 on: August 10, 2008, 09:15:12 pm »
Will I bitch and moan about Euro tracks or American tracks ..no ..


Well maybe its because of the fact that the game is filled with American tracks (and cars) for American tastes, most of these cars appeal to me very little (only car that really is for my taste is the Legends), its not moaning its MORE THAN ACCEPTABLE to hope for content of wider variety, not moaning or bitching.
It would be like best possible news for me if they decide to bring few good european tracks and bit more "international" type of race cars..

[SJ]Cato Larsen

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Re: more iRacing experiences and random chatting about dis and dat topid
« Reply #56 on: August 10, 2008, 10:01:06 pm »
I will not take that comment at me, but nevertheless I never mentioned anything about faster cars. I never liked fast cars per se. I said in my comment that I love touring cars.
A good track is a good track wherever it is located. But this is american only. All good. I like Laguna.
Good enough. I am sure you feel that people suck faster the faster they drive.
I feel a bit offended. On the behalf of the mediocre part of simracing, wich I am clearly part of.

A few comments on that I and maybe some other would like this game to xpand beyond the borders of america is not bad is it? I like all the aspects of this game and I love the physics and the laserbuild tracks.

I am sure that there is shitload of things build for lets say rFactor, by a 14 year old kid. I have never raced them I think, but there is also lots of damn fine things made for most of the sims around. Wich I guess got you and the rest of us here in the first place.
iRacing is a damn fine concept gamewise. Moneywise I have stated my case long time ago.

I just hope that it will xpand.
Ovals... fine, I never liked ovals and even the damn fine sportsmanship people in here shows, do not make me wanna change my mind.
Legends on road. I would love to.
People are different. Thats it. and critisisme will always be there. In here I have seen nothing but good critisisme, and I hope iRacing have people snooping around to find all the talk about their product. It will only improve their stuff.

BTW, who the hell is bitching and moaning. I have not seen anybody.

Night folks. see ya in a week.
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[SJ]Jarkko Rantajoki

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Re: more iRacing experiences and random chatting about dis and dat topid
« Reply #57 on: August 10, 2008, 10:08:30 pm »
Have a nice vacation m8.

Had a crap race.. well.. my racing was actually pretty good. In the advanced Solstice.
Started 9th, made my way up to 2nd.. two laps to go.. some lapped traffic spun.. i slowly try to avoid, but his car slides right into me, nothing i could do anymore at that point. Not huge speed, but totalled my car.. quickly towed into pits.. finished 5th.. ridiculously unfair this game sometimes.. You do a great race, somebody else fucks up, ruins your race and awards you with a loss of SR too.. but i guess thats racing, eh?
Anyway feel bad enough about it not to touch the game anymore tonight, and in fact propably spend rest of the night fucking and sleeping, if straight languange is allowed.

[SJ]Jett

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Re: more iRacing experiences and random chatting about dis and dat topid
« Reply #58 on: August 10, 2008, 10:44:47 pm »
the bitching and moaning comment wasn't directed towards anyone. I was just using an expression I use a lot in regards to this. Sorry if you took it that way.

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« Reply #59 on: August 10, 2008, 10:49:49 pm »
I for one am not looking for faster cars in this sim.  I would like to see more variety though like GTL like cars and not even the fast ones, something equivalent to the TC-65 class in GTL.  My purpose in all of this sim stuff is to better my racecraft as well and frankly any car with more than a 1hp/10lb teaches me no skills I can use in real life.

1 lap in the radical convinced me of that lol

I am really liking the challenge of the skippy at VIR full.  I should probably still be in the solstice but I just cant do it.  Would rather be at the back in the skippy than up front in the solstice.  Only in the 16's now and hope to see 14's by the end of the week.

I love the 1 week format and the fact that I can do so much online racing.  I really enjoy just being on the track with real folk and learning from them.  Its hard to race AI anymore.

Problem I always had with GTL, GTR2 yada...yada is there was hardly anybody on when I was in the mood to race.  When I would find a place, it seemed to be full of wreckers.

iRacing has fixed this aspect quite well, its not perfect but its the best pickup racing to be had.

Gary

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Re: more iRacing experiences and random chatting about dis and dat topid
« Reply #60 on: August 10, 2008, 11:30:31 pm »
the bitching and moaning comment wasn't directed towards anyone. I was just using an expression I use a lot in regards to this. Sorry if you took it that way.


did not take it like that. just wanted to clearify. and also make clear what I meant for others who read it.
I could have guessed what you ment, but well. you know. we do not all think alike.

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Re: more iRacing experiences and random chatting about dis and dat topid
« Reply #61 on: August 11, 2008, 01:52:19 am »
Will I bitch and moan about Euro tracks or American tracks ..no ..


Well maybe its because of the fact that the game is filled with American tracks (and cars) for American tastes, most of these cars appeal to me very little (only car that really is for my taste is the Legends), its not moaning its MORE THAN ACCEPTABLE to hope for content of wider variety, not moaning or bitching.
It would be like best possible news for me if they decide to bring few good european tracks and bit more "international" type of race cars..


I agree with Jarkko, while I like Laguna Seca, there are very few American tracks I like and there are almost no American cars that appeal to me (and for sure not the Solstice  :grrr:). What I, and I think many European guys with me, want to see is fine European tracks (Spa anyone  :?:  :)) and European cars (BMW, Porsche, ...) and/or Japanese cars and Asian tracks for some extra variety.

And I also agree with Rik, the penalty system is far from perfect.

Third negative point I've got is that the brake pedal sensitivity is by default bad (I only need 1/3 of my pedal...) and that you can't change it yourself  :?: that's unacceptable imo, I really hope they 'fix' it asap.

Aside those negatives I do enjoy the game so far.  :)

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« Reply #62 on: August 11, 2008, 03:06:42 am »
Well actually you can change the brake sensitivity thru DIView.  Go to rscnet.org under the Cannon SImulation Tech vendor area and it is explained.  I am considering doing it tomorrow.

Funny thing, people complain about that in Historix and I was one of them......but its not at all like this game.

Gary

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Re: more iRacing experiences and random chatting about dis and dat topid
« Reply #63 on: August 11, 2008, 09:24:17 am »
The problem is 99% of our brake use in sims is based on travel not pressure so we don't feel what is happening and are used to using all the travel in some car with big fat tires and brakes in another game. I'm guilty of this too, and since most of our pedal setups are completely unrealistic, it's not hard to see where problems start to happen on some cars. It's like we have way to big of a brake booster and master cylinder that our brakes feel super soft and spongy but are overpowering the calipers and locking up all the time. There are some ways to 'fix' it, with my pedals I use brake fluid for feel, so if I push down the pedal as hard as I can when calibrating (which you need to do EVERY time you plug in the wheel, push all pedals through their ranges) it works out ok since I won't be stomping that hard and my 'normal' feel is around 80% of the brakes in this game which has me just about locking up the front wheels in the solstice.

I too would like to see more variety in cars, touring cars especially would be great. Maybe some club racing classes like scca IP and such too with a few makes. Tracks I am pretty happy with, they have VIR which is an excellent track and will take anyone a lifetime to master. Still there are plenty of tracks both NA and the rest of the world I would love to have. Easy to see how expensive a prospect it will be for them to get permissions and then get their people and equipment out there to get the data required to make it though. Personally I think there are dozens of NA tracks that need to be made before going to europe, but since sim racing and motorsports as a whole are more popular over there it is in the sims best interest to cater to those tastes a bit too. I hope they don't just use 'big name' facilities, I think that is a real shame because there are plenty of no-name tracks out there that are tons of fun, but not suitable for fast open wheelers, so I doubt if we will see many of those.

Sim racing also makes everyone greedy as far as tracks and cars go. Normal people and most real non-professional racers do not have such luxuries unless they are loaded. I personally have 4 road courses (mid america, hastings, gateway) and 4 dirt ovals within a reasonable 3hours drive, this is a lot by any standard. I also only have one car to drive (well, one for road and one for oval). In sim racing though you get unlimited track time, so it's easy to get worn out. Instead of having every other weekend at a track (if you could afford it) and running only a couple hours a day usually (if you can afford the tires and brakes etc.).

This coming from someone who hasn't yet bought any new tracks or cars, still working on getting the default stuff down. :)