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[SJ]Jarkko Rantajoki

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Why i am changing to Nvidia..
« on: July 17, 2009, 04:10:34 am »
Ok.. little explanation why i cannot anymore recommend ATI 4xxx series.

All started with my 4850.. after i got my new monitor, at first i had trouble getting the dvi to work.. I saw some problems on google, but nobody had not tried the obvious of installing the monitors drivers. Well, i installed monitors drivers and all was well, everything worked and i was happy.

Got my 4890. Everything worked a treat. Then last night i got the idea of again attachin my tv with hdmi cable to watch a movie.. what a fiasko.. spent an hour trying all kinds of things, installed latest drivers blahblah.. and finally got it working, watched my movie and went to bed. Well.. today morning, exactly 2 hours ago.. i fired up my pc.. and fucking hell.. again the same issue.. when it finishes loading windows.. "no signal" again with the dvi.
Ive spent this 2 hours trying everything imaginable, but just cant get the dvi to work anymore.. and after some heavy googling, its obvious its a huge issue with ATI and windows vista/windows 7. Its so annoying problem, that i will be selling this as soon as possible, and get nvidia card instead.. I will not tolerate such unsolved issue of this degree. Unbelievable i havent heard or seen the scale of this epic ati failure before.
Im one pretty disapointed customer, as i really need a good flexibility and reliability with different display devices.

[SJ]Fleischi

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Re: Why i am changing to Nvidia..
« Reply #1 on: July 17, 2009, 04:48:05 am »
i never owned a ATI so i can only say, glad that u leaved the dark side lol

the reasons why i never owned a ATI is damm simple, i readed and heared a lots of trouble with it and a noob like me doesnĀ“t need that

[SJ]Kristof Huyck

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Re: Why i am changing to Nvidia..
« Reply #2 on: July 17, 2009, 06:19:33 am »
The dark side?

Anyway, I do own both and have had problems with both. I re-encountered the most ugly a couple days ago as I was compiling a system from various components I have laying around. The first time I booted into Windows7 after the actual install I got a scrambled screen instead of a welcome screen lol. However I'm lucky to know that just like in Windows Vista there is an issue with factory overclocked nVidia 7xxx series graphics cards, so I took my other 7900GT, the one that is not factory overclocked and all is fine again. Anyway, this a LONG standing bug and nVidia seems not to care about their customers too.

So actually both nVidia and ATI/AMD have there share of issues, you just got to be unlucky to encounter them.

[SJ]Cato Larsen

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Re: Why i am changing to Nvidia..
« Reply #3 on: July 17, 2009, 07:05:41 am »
The dark side?

Anyway, I do own both and have had problems with both. I re-encountered the most ugly a couple days ago as I was compiling a system from various components I have laying around. The first time I booted into Windows7 after the actual install I got a scrambled screen instead of a welcome screen lol. However I'm lucky to know that just like in Windows Vista there is an issue with factory overclocked nVidia 7xxx series graphics cards, so I took my other 7900GT, the one that is not factory overclocked and all is fine again. Anyway, this a LONG standing bug and nVidia seems not to care about their customers too.

So actually both nVidia and ATI/AMD have there share of issues, you just got to be unlucky to encounter them.


Actually. as far as I know and have seen in other communities and also with friends, the 7900 ( or the 7***) series from nVidia is prob a middle station card that was made and put out while waiting to impress with the 8xxx series. They seems to be full with annoying little bugs that pops up everywhere on many games and utillities.
I have had a 7 series card and I was not very happy with that. then I got the x1950 from ATI and was quite happy with that. Ran hot like hell, but after checking out the web, it was supposed to. 80 degrees was normal.
Then I bought the 8800 GTS and thats prob the best card I have ever owned. Runs cold again 50-55 degrees in summer with ambient 25 degrees. not bad.
Also performs on par with and goes beyond many 9xxx series cards.... Depending on what series card you get, and also the speed (or whatever you will call it) you might have superb cards on both sides of the light.

8800 means as far as i know, 8 (series nr) 800 (speed/quality) in an easy told way. 8800 is and should be better than 9500 even though never chip and so on. At least what I have seen and learned from trying and reading what the so called experts say :) This would then of course not mean that 6800 would outperform 9500 since that is very old, but closer series would go by that rule.

Wtf am I babbling about. this is Jarkkos thread about DVI plugs not working on his ATI card.
Bugger me I must not have much to do at work today.

[SJ]Jarkko Rantajoki

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Re: Why i am changing to Nvidia..
« Reply #4 on: July 17, 2009, 07:59:42 am »
I of course can accept that there are some problems always no matter what brand.. what i cant accept is the fact that a problem this widely spread havent been solved.
 :cry:

Im using my tv quite bit to watch movies from my pc.. so i really need it to be failproof, and quick qooqling didnt bring any issues with that concerning GTX2xx cards.

[SJ]TrickyDee

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Re: Why i am changing to Nvidia..
« Reply #5 on: July 17, 2009, 09:23:17 am »
Just to add my two penny I've only ever used ATI latest card HD4770 and never had a problem, run monitor through DVI, plug into TV with HDMI then unplug and strait back to monitor.

Never had problems with driver installation or anything, I suppose I could just be lucky, but then again you guys have seen me drive.........

[SJ]Jarkko Rantajoki

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Re: Why i am changing to Nvidia..
« Reply #6 on: July 17, 2009, 11:34:14 am »
Well.. im now using vga cable to my 24", and hdmi to tv.. and surprisingly i dont notice any massive difference in image quality with the vga.. havent tried any games though but at least windows is reasonably sharp..
could be that my eyes are messy though, just driving around in a hot car and having a headache anyway.

[SJ]hendrix

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Re: Why i am changing to Nvidia..
« Reply #7 on: July 17, 2009, 01:26:43 pm »
I dont  notice much difference  with vga vs hdmi  .. the only reason i use hdmi was it was just one cable to connect to tv .. .. Not had probs with my 4870
« Last Edit: July 17, 2009, 01:30:30 pm by [SJ]hendrix »

[SJ]Jarkko Rantajoki

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Re: Why i am changing to Nvidia..
« Reply #8 on: July 17, 2009, 01:56:00 pm »
I dont  notice much difference  with vga vs hdmi  .. the only reason i use hdmi was it was just one cable to connect to tv .. .. Not had probs with my 4870


Some say that the difference between DVI and vga is quite big  :dunno:

[SJ]Kristof Huyck

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Re: Why i am changing to Nvidia..
« Reply #9 on: July 17, 2009, 05:08:06 pm »
Some have very sensible eyes then lol I bet if you did a 'blind test' that it would be very hard to detect which monitor is connected via DVI and which via VGA.

I'm thinking since some time to try my LCD TV on my game computer (HDMI connection), I'll let you know the result  :)

[SJ]Jarkko Rantajoki

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Re: Why i am changing to Nvidia..
« Reply #10 on: July 17, 2009, 05:12:49 pm »
Well, definitely im not noticing anything wrong with the picture on vga. lol

It works good now, when i just ditched the dvi.. HDMI to telly, VGA to pc monitor and all is fine.
I would have tried vga much sooner, if i knew the picture is just as good grrr.... its quite failproof after all.

[SJ]Nailz

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Re: Why i am changing to Nvidia..
« Reply #11 on: July 17, 2009, 05:40:36 pm »
I've never really understood how vga and dvi are different. If there was such a difference in signal strength/quality/type then the adaptor wouldn't just be a simple plug thingy :?:

[SJ]Satain

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Re: Why i am changing to Nvidia..
« Reply #12 on: July 31, 2009, 07:01:14 am »
Going from a Nvidia 5200 on vga to a Gtx285 on dvi to be honest can't say i noticed much... the big difference was going from crt to lcd, other than that i cant tell the difference to be honest.

Also my friend in the computer selling industry seems to think that HDMI is DVI with sound... ive seen the 2 compared and noticed even less than vga to dvi..