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[SJ]ski9600

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New CPU cooler
« on: July 30, 2009, 01:46:11 am »
As I mentioned in the other thread, I installed a new CPU cooler tonight cuz I was so angry about crashes during racing.  The reason I didn't install it a week ago is because it required un-bolting the motherboard and inserting a plastic support underneath the motherboard.  However, my level of frustration after last night was sufficient to get er dun! lol
The cooler I acquired is the zalman 9500 see here: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835118003

Good reviews, and if it fixes my problem well worth the $40usd.

The installation was more complex than I thought when I clicked to order it, but really wasn't that bad.

1      Remove video card
2      Remove eSATA header
3      remove sound card
4      remove 9 screws attaching motherboard
5      drink beer, smoke and watch tele
6      pry up motherboard to install plastic support below motherboard, screw upper support to it.  this required about 6 tries b4 success.
7      remove cpu grease from fingers, face and toes (don't ask)
8      try to install cpu cooler to upper support with springy clip and 2 screws.  this took about 12 tries.
8.7   plug in cpu cooler.  nailed it in one!  :excited:
9      drink, smoke watch tele
10    re-install 9 motherboard screws, stripped one.  technique perfected on 8th screw, will forget b4 next time.
11    re-install 3 add-in cards and power cables
12    re-install case side panels
13    drink more beer
14    attach all the cables at the back of case
15    try to boot
16    realize one of the hard drives came from connected  :grr:
17    remove side panel and jiggle SATA connector
18    boot again, success!!!!   :excited:
19    re-setup bios time and settings
20    drink, smoke and post about new cpu cooler on SJ
21    screw up post without saving and re-write steps 3-21 and balance of review     :grr: :grr: :grr: :grr: :grr:


Overall, this is a cool looking cooler no pun intended.  The install was not as bad as I thought it might be.  If the case manufacturer had made some holes in the panel behind the motherboard it may have even been really simple.   But that's not zalman's fault.

I hope it solves my crashing problem, :fingers crossed:

Cheers,
Steve!

11    re-install 3 add-in cards and power cables.
« Last Edit: July 30, 2009, 02:05:56 am by [SJ]ski9600 »

[SJ]JuneBug

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Re: New CPU cooler
« Reply #1 on: July 30, 2009, 02:19:52 am »
8.7   plug in cpu cooler.  nailed it in one!  :excited:


That made me laugh  lol

Glad you got installed Ski :) Good show thumbs up

[SJ]DenDanger

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Re: New CPU cooler
« Reply #2 on: July 30, 2009, 02:31:34 am »
 Big grins here also. COOL,-literally.....lol

 Hope it solves your crashing.

[SJ]ski9600

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Re: New CPU cooler
« Reply #3 on: July 30, 2009, 03:07:43 am »
Well, it doesn't seem to cure my problem.  I guess the next step is looking to remove the heat cooler from the video card.  It's an 8800GTX 768meg, anyone know how?

cheers,
Steve     :shy:

[SJ]ski9600

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Re: New CPU cooler
« Reply #4 on: July 30, 2009, 04:26:57 am »
Hey, someone recomended running dxdiag.exe, and I saw this:

"see attached file"


What the hell is this thing doing there.  I've noticed accelerated problems with my system since about that time the file was created....(6/3/9)


So, maybe I did something on that day or this is something that Spybot s&d, AVG (anti-virus) isn't detecting?

I think it's probably something I did, there's no unusual internet activity...


Let me know if you can run "dxdiag.exe" from command prompt in XP and whether you see this item also...

Thanks,
STeve



[SJ]KL Mallender

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Re: New CPU cooler
« Reply #5 on: July 30, 2009, 05:24:33 am »
Hey Steve, I access dxdiag from the run box but come up with quartz.dll also, just different dates, mine is 12/20/2008, funny thing is this installation is only a month and a half old, so that file must be an outdated one on my end.
Have you tried GPU-Z program yet? it's a free dl from same site with CPU-Z, the GPU-Z shows vid card specs in real time & temperatures, might be worth a try.

Kevin.

[SJ]Cato Larsen

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Re: New CPU cooler
« Reply #6 on: July 30, 2009, 06:08:12 am »
Hey, someone recomended running dxdiag.exe, and I saw this:

"see attached file"


What the hell is this thing doing there.  I've noticed accelerated problems with my system since about that time the file was created....(6/3/9)


So, maybe I did something on that day or this is something that Spybot s&d, AVG (anti-virus) isn't detecting?

I think it's probably something I did, there's no unusual internet activity...


Let me know if you can run "dxdiag.exe" from command prompt in XP and whether you see this item also...

Thanks,
STeve





http://www.liutilities.com/products/wintaskspro/dlllibrary/quartz/

Any file you find suspicious you can google and fin info on.
Some is useful some is not.
De-Install your drivers and use driver sweep to clean up. then install the newest from nVidia. or of course for those with ATI/AMD should get drivers from there.

I saw that Quartz had something to do with DX something, so could be a driver issue. Did you install drivers a month ago??? And if i remember right you did not un-install the drivers from last time ???

[SJ]ski9600

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Re: New CPU cooler
« Reply #7 on: July 30, 2009, 01:29:20 pm »
Yeah, I installed Nvidia drivers around that time without removing previous drivers.  About a week ago I realized they weren't installed correctly and remvoved them using add/remove programs and re-installed the latest.  I'll try the driver sweep and gpuz tonight...

Thanks for the tips!

[SJ]nissan man

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Re: New CPU cooler
« Reply #8 on: July 30, 2009, 08:19:10 pm »
I hope you get it sorted steve :)

[SJ]ski9600

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Re: New CPU cooler
« Reply #9 on: July 31, 2009, 01:03:03 am »
I hope you get it sorted steve :)

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I put on the GPU_Z, and Tys helped me use N-Tune, and SpeedFan.

The SpeedFan gives you a real time scrolling graph of fans and is really useful.  The CPU cores were staying at around 50c and the GPU cores were soaring to 80c and headed higher.  We decided that the GPU temps were the problem, and Tys suggested N-Tune from Nvidia.  I installed that and was able to gain manual control over the GPU fan.  I cranked it (he he) to 100% (from 60%) and that lowered the GPU temps by 10c to 70 degrees celcius.  So far I haven't crashed so I think I'm on the right track!

Thanks to all on ventrilo tonight, Tys, Bill, ert, etc!   :excited: :excited: :excited: :excited:

I think I've got this problem identified and will be solved soon!

And with my new Cpu cooler, maybe overclocking again.

/although I'm already getting more than 500fps in rFactor and my monitor only refreshes at 60hz...  lol

[SJ]DenDanger

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Re: New CPU cooler
« Reply #10 on: July 31, 2009, 01:42:20 am »
GOOD to hear!!

[SJ]ski9600

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Re: New CPU cooler
« Reply #11 on: July 31, 2009, 02:10:28 am »
GOOD to hear!!


Yeah, we'll see how it goes int he league race soon!  but I've been on rFactor 3d nonstop for over 2 hours so far so It is promising 4sure.











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[SJ]ski9600

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Re: New CPU cooler
« Reply #12 on: August 01, 2009, 10:15:38 pm »
I crashed out of the ESJ today, but I had my CPU overclocked to 3.12g from 2.66.  I'm at 2.9 now, but I'm not running any 3d so it's throttling down. 

I bought a can of air today, and removed and blew out a bunch of dust from the GPU b4 overclocking.  I think it would be stable now @ stock speeds.  I'll check it out.

Cheers,
Steve

[SJ]ski9600

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Re: New CPU cooler
« Reply #13 on: August 07, 2009, 01:46:23 am »
I've cleaned the GPU, and set the PCI-E clock to 91 in bios (stock is 100).  I've also set the fanspeed to 100%.  However, the temps from the GPU are exceeding 80c just watching the spinner in rFactor.  Do you think it's worth trying to throw a GPU cooler at it, or should I just buy a new GPU (This GPU cost me $500usd, and the framerates are really excellent)?

 :?:


I guess if I used a cooler it would not be a water cooler.  Air only for me.  Something like this one: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835118037

Looks like I need a ram cooler to accompany this GPU cooler.  http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835118038

What do you think?  It's going to be about $100usd to do the cooler option, and about $500 to get a 295 nvidia GPU...  :?:

[SJ]Peter Enqvist

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Re: New CPU cooler
« Reply #14 on: August 07, 2009, 05:01:12 am »
That graphics card you have still kicks ass, so I don't think you should replace it.  It's very strange that you would suddenly start having cooling issues when it's been working fine now for a long time.  Are there other fans in your case that need a dust cleaning?  If there's a fan on the front of the case it would be an intake fan, and those can get clogged up really badly sometimes.  Mine has an air filter on it and I have to remove it every couple of months and vacuum the pile of dust off.  Also, the fan in the power supply can get full of dust too, I usually vacuum that out once in a while too.

You could try running your pc with the side cover removed.  If everything works ok like that, then you probably have dust blocking some case fans somewhere, or some other air flow problem like ribbon cables blocking airflow.  Sometimes on hot summer days I run my pc with the side cover off because my case doesn't have the best airflow.

[SJ]ski9600

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Re: New CPU cooler
« Reply #15 on: August 10, 2009, 11:27:01 pm »
That graphics card you have still kicks ass, so I don't think you should replace it.  It's very strange that you would suddenly start having cooling issues when it's been working fine now for a long time.  Are there other fans in your case that need a dust cleaning?  If there's a fan on the front of the case it would be an intake fan, and those can get clogged up really badly sometimes.  Mine has an air filter on it and I have to remove it every couple of months and vacuum the pile of dust off.  Also, the fan in the power supply can get full of dust too, I usually vacuum that out once in a while too.

You could try running your pc with the side cover removed.  If everything works ok like that, then you probably have dust blocking some case fans somewhere, or some other air flow problem like ribbon cables blocking airflow.  Sometimes on hot summer days I run my pc with the side cover off because my case doesn't have the best airflow.


Yeah, I think this card still kicks some butt too.  I went ahead and ordered the VF1000 GPU cooler today after my game crashed in rFactor race one this afternoon.  I didn't order the other item I mentioned above, I'll see how this goes and then go from there.

BTW, I'm getting over 300fps in rFactor with the settings on "medium" or so.

[SJ]JuneBug

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Re: New CPU cooler
« Reply #16 on: August 11, 2009, 12:16:02 am »
You would want to make sure the fans on the bottom area of your case are sucking in air while the ones on top are blowing the air out of your case... makes a difference... they may be reversed... bottoms are blowing and tops are well... err... sucking :)

 :?:

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[SJ]ski9600

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Re: New CPU cooler
« Reply #17 on: August 12, 2009, 04:50:00 am »
hmmmm, good point.  Right now my case is laying on the right side so the GPU is standing straight up.  And my temps are over 85c during gaming.  When I'm just internet surfing the GPU is down to 65 or less.

Anyway, I'd tried adjusting the rFactor config but I was adjusting it for the wrong install.  I've got 2 or 4 and when I adjusted the rFactor config for the actual install that I'm running to do the Vertical Sync thing (limits your frame rate to your monitor refresh rate)

Anyway when I only ran the vertical sync I didn't crash  :excited:  However, with the lower framerates I was 3-5 seconds slower per lap  :cry:

[SJ]Peter Enqvist

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Re: New CPU cooler
« Reply #18 on: August 12, 2009, 04:59:20 am »
And my temps are over 85c during gaming.  When I'm just internet surfing the GPU is down to 65 or less.


How much over 85 C does it get?  85 is at the high end of the normal operating temps for the 8800 GTX, but it's still normal.