Author Topic: GTR2 keeps shutting down.  (Read 12184 times)

[SJ]DenDanger

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GTR2 keeps shutting down.
« on: September 18, 2008, 12:31:43 am »
 Weird. Maybe just a coincedence as it only started when I did some major changes to my PC. Made me think it was the XP acting evil.

 Uninstralled and reinstalled GTR2. Same thing. I start the game, go on track and get a error report. Game dies. Same on Dedicated server. I put one up and sometimes it lasts less than 30 seconds!

 Wiped the hard drive. Reinstalled again and...

same thing.

 All I've added now is the wsgt mod/install as I thought it was related. Same thing.

 I then did a wee bit of research and found out about trace logs.

 Anyone know how to read one?

 Mine cames up as such:


 (This is before I added my plr into the new install)

 TRACE LEVEL = 1000
netcomm.cpp  7902: NetComm checking command line: "-trace=1000"
game.cpp      633: Entered Game::Enter()
osman.cpp     469: Entered OSMan::Enter()
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vidman.cpp   1011: Entered VidMan::Enter()
specialfx.cp 3577: Entered SpecialFX::Enter()
dynman.cpp    597: Entered DynMan::Enter()
plrfile.cpp  3783: Entered PlayerFile::Enter()
sound.cpp     700: Entered Sound::Enter()
hwinput.cpp  6527: Entered HWInput::Enter()
onscreen.cpp 3155: Entered OnScreen::Enter()
game.cpp      726: Entered Game::Setup()
hwinput.cpp  6541: Entered HWInput::Setup()
options.cpp  1657: Entered Options::Setup()
tire_manager 1171: Non-existent tire brand ""
tire_manager 1171: Non-existent tire brand ""
tire_manager 1171: Non-existent tire brand ""
tire_manager 1171: Non-existent tire brand ""
specialfx.cp 3583: Entered SpecialFX::Setup()
steward.cpp  4718: Entered Steward::Setup()
dynman.cpp    609: Entered DynMan::Setup()
sound.cpp     723: Entered Sound::Setup()
onscreen.cpp 3161: Entered OnScreen::Setup()
vidman.cpp   1152: Entered VidMan::Setup()
plrfile.cpp  3793: Entered PlayerFile::Setup()
plrfile.cpp  2936: Attempting to save to USERDATA\Dent\Dent.TMP
plrfile.cpp  2959: Retcode: 0 for renaming to USERDATA\Dent\Dent.PLR
game.cpp      770: Entered Game::Init()
vidman.cpp   1205: Entered VidMan::Init()
ai_db.cpp    2215: Entered AIDatabase::Init()
steward.cpp  4856: Entered Steward::Init()
hwinput.cpp  6584: Entered HWInput::Init()
specialfx.cp 3694: Entered SpecialFX::Init()
dynman.cpp    639: Entered DynMan::Init()
slot.cpp      284: Entered Slot::Init()
vehgfx.cpp   2587: Entered VehGraphics::Init(GAMEDATA\TEAMS\TRACKVEHICLES\SAFETYCAR\SAFETYCAR.CAS)
slot.cpp      284: Entered Slot::Init()
pitmod.cpp    197: Entered PitAction::Init
vehgfx.cpp   2587: Entered VehGraphics::Init(GAMEDATA\TEAMS\GT\FERRARI 550 TEAMS\BMS SCUDERIA ITALIA\..\FERRARI_F550_STYLE2.CAS)
SteeringAnim  660: Error loading ExtDriver-ShiftR_M.lma.
LensFlare.cp   55: Entered LensFlare::Init()
camera.cpp   4189: Entered CamMan::Init()
sound.cpp     728: Entered Sound::Init()
render.cpp    274: Entered Render::Init()
onscreen.cpp 3167: Entered OnScreen::Init()
game.cpp      905: Entered Game::Restart()
sound.cpp     735: Entered Sound::Restart()
steward.cpp  4978: Entered Steward::Restart()
specialfx.cp 4186: Entered SpecialFX::Restart()
hwinput.cpp  6595: Entered HWInput::Restart()
dynman.cpp    770: Entered DynMan::Restart()
driver.cpp    628: Race Ability: 5.997742   CorneringAdd: 0.501129
driver.cpp    628: Race Ability: 4.467788   CorneringAdd: 1.266106
camera.cpp   4215: Entered CamMan::Restart()
render.cpp    290: Entered Render::Restart()
onscreen.cpp 3187: Entered OnScreen::Restart()
vidman.cpp   1423: Entered VidMan::Restart()
plrfile.cpp  3830: Entered PlayerFile::Restart()
« Last Edit: September 22, 2008, 06:21:37 am by Dent »

[SJ]nissan man

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Re: GTR2 keeps shutting down.
« Reply #1 on: September 18, 2008, 01:16:23 am »
run the graphics setup in your GTR2 folder, make sure a resolution is listed.

[SJ]DenDanger

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Re: GTR2 keeps shutting down.
« Reply #2 on: September 18, 2008, 01:29:14 am »
 My first thought was "I did that" as I had dropped it to 600 x 800 thinking that I had it too high....

 But I just looked and realized I had set it at 16 bit!! I didn't even NOTICE that before! So just changed it to 32 bit and will try it. Think the "bit thing" would do it?

 Thanks man!!
« Last Edit: September 22, 2008, 06:22:27 am by Dent »

[SJ]DenDanger

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Re: GTR2 keeps shutting down.
« Reply #3 on: September 18, 2008, 02:04:56 am »
 Worked better but still did it.

 The thing seems to be this one: (?)

 "setup.cpp    1194: Could not find .HDC"

 Saw something on RSC referring to possibility of unseated RAM or GPU and since I just replaced all the above, I'll crack it open and make sure everything is still seated properly before proceeding.

[SJ]DenDanger

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Re: GTR2 keeps shutting down.
« Reply #4 on: September 18, 2008, 03:07:02 am »
 Nope. Tried also turning Direct X down to 8 but it's getting worse. Also now getting the error and it's hanging there and won't shut down.

[SJ]Nodnerb

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Re: GTR2 keeps shutting down.
« Reply #5 on: September 18, 2008, 03:40:56 am »
Have you tried running it in window mode? 
I used to get CTD's running it full screen, change to window mode and all is fine :salute:

[SJ]DenDanger

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Re: GTR2 keeps shutting down.
« Reply #6 on: September 18, 2008, 03:56:43 am »
 I'll try anything at this point. Put the old card in and for a moment thought I had it though on D7. Then it crashed again. Dayamn!!

[SJ]xanaxkamikaze

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Re: GTR2 keeps shutting down.
« Reply #7 on: September 18, 2008, 04:15:03 am »
vehgfx.cpp   2587: Entered VehGraphics::Init(GAMEDATA\TEAMS\GT\FERRARI 550 TEAMS\BMS SCUDERIA ITALIA\..\FERRARI_F550_STYLE2.CAS)

This line is the issue.  The .car file for this Ferrari is looking for the wrong .cas file.

At least as far as I know...

[SJ]DenDanger

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Re: GTR2 keeps shutting down.
« Reply #8 on: September 18, 2008, 04:26:00 am »
 Well..

 I believe we're heading in the right direction.

 I set it in windowed mode in the config but then the whole PC crashed!! Basically did a restart on it's own.

 So, when I started the game back up again, changed it to Letterbox also in the game menu.

 So......

 Just put 9 laps worth in the M3 and ran it out of gas!! YAAAY!!!

 Tired now. So tomorrow will put the new GPU back in and try to baseline it from there. My one concern too is I wasn't online this last time and was the rest so will try a run with that variable in place also before making more changes.

 I'm just going to fart with it tomorrow long enough to get it running if this IS the key because I want to get GTL back in and PLAY!!!! Haha.
« Last Edit: September 22, 2008, 06:23:20 am by Dent »

[SJ]DenDanger

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Re: GTR2 keeps shutting down.
« Reply #9 on: September 18, 2008, 04:32:49 am »
 Okay--Put my screen resolutions back up and tried again. Still seems to be okay. Gonna leave it for now, tired. Been at this ALL day and it's 12:30 am so I'm gonna take a break from this until tomorrow.

[SJ]Jarkko Rantajoki

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Re: GTR2 keeps shutting down.
« Reply #10 on: September 18, 2008, 04:53:36 am »
I wonder if its about the gfx drivers. What card and what driver version you are using?

[SJ]DenDanger

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Re: GTR2 keeps shutting down.
« Reply #11 on: September 18, 2008, 05:06:00 am »
This card now (the old one) is a GeForce 5200. The driver I loaded right from Nvidia's site,

 The other card is a GeForce 6200 and I used the disk that came with it as earlier I TRIED to open the (downloaded) driver from Nvidia and XP told me it was "corrupted" and wouldn't install it.

 I have a suspicion though that both cards use the same driver as when I downloaded the driver for the 6200 yesterday it said I already had the same file (asked to overwrite as I keep the unopened files in the same folder..)

 I'm seriously tempted to leave the driver in that's here now when I swap back in the newer card. See what happens. At worse I delete it and install the newer(?) software.

 At least the extra RAM works real well!! Haha. Maybe by Xmas I can get a seriouser card but for now, this is all I got to work with.

[SJ]Jarkko Rantajoki

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Re: GTR2 keeps shutting down.
« Reply #12 on: September 18, 2008, 05:32:22 am »
Ah, you didnt properly remove the old driver when installing new, possibly the cause of your problems.

You need to remove the old drivers from the control panel, then restart windows.. then install the new drivers and reboot again.

I would recommend driver cleaner, but its pay software nowadays.

[SJ]DenDanger

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Re: GTR2 keeps shutting down.
« Reply #13 on: September 18, 2008, 12:27:52 pm »
 I did remove the old drivers. After I removed them, XP wouldn't let me download the new one so I used the disk. Then tried to update after removing THAT software but after downloading XP wouldn't let me open what I downloaded as they said it was a corrupt file. Tried it a second time and got the same.

 One thing I WILL say is you were right about starting this thread. I'm used to forums (auto etc) where if you ask a question like this you are jumped on for wasting the forum's time and space. And I didn't want to piss anyone off. You guys are great.

 One thing I have definitely learned is the DIRECTION to search for the problem in. As I am also learning a new O.S. on top of everything else, I now know the "error report" is a generic message and THAT has helped a lot!! I had worked with '98 so long I knew it's quirks inside and out so this is a new experience all around.

 I've put the new card back in as it was a HUGE improvement, until it crashed! HAHAHAHAHAAA!!!!

 I'm going to redownload the driver into a separate folder and then compare them and see if they are indeed the same driver software. Once I know that I will proceed.

 Still having my morning coffee and waking up so going to do the software as I have my coffee. Once I get this up and even if I have to use Windowed mode, I will leave it and re-install GTL.

 Thanks again for all the help. I feel now that I'm getting somewhere. You guys have made my day and gotten my stress level waaaay down.
« Last Edit: September 22, 2008, 06:26:26 am by Dent »

[SJ]DenDanger

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Re: GTR2 keeps shutting down.
« Reply #14 on: September 18, 2008, 12:42:27 pm »
 So it IS the same driver for both! Would have saved a lot of trouble. LOL. Got this:

 "Your PC currently has the latest driver installed for your GPU. No driver update is necessary at this time."

[SJ]DenDanger

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Re: GTR2 keeps shutting down.
« Reply #15 on: September 18, 2008, 01:26:52 pm »
 Okay. So one of the messages I was getting and just got again is "Logitech Wingman Monitor has encountered a problem"

 WTF??? I don't even know what that IS!


[SJ]Jarkko Rantajoki

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Re: GTR2 keeps shutting down.
« Reply #16 on: September 18, 2008, 01:32:20 pm »
Aha!
Its the profiler causing problems then.. best to get rid of it.
You should see a red logo on the bottom right corner of windows, when you double click it, it will open the profiler. I NEVER use it, its begging for trouble.
Just open it, find where to close it down and close it.

Ill teach you later when we are on comms how to completely disable it so it wont start with windows.

[SJ]KL Mallender

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Re: GTR2 keeps shutting down.
« Reply #17 on: September 18, 2008, 01:52:30 pm »
Hey Dent, I have quite a bit of experience with the same card: FX5200/FX5500. I feel your pain. Performance wasn't great but has proven extremely durable, I could get best results on DX7 with details on low to medium,shadows need to be OFF, beware that some mods / tracks / skins are done in HI-resolution which will cause the FX5200 to really stutter(extremely low fps) compared to normal cars. Did not have problems with game crash though, I totally agree with Jarkko in disabling profilier and removing all old drivers and files from Nvidia-reboot-let windows install recomended adapter-reboot-then install latest Nvidia drivers(174.## I think) then use Nvidia control panel to adjust card settings to performance, maybe we get on vent to sort out? I'll look for my old driver files.

Kevin.

[SJ]DenDanger

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Re: GTR2 keeps shutting down.
« Reply #18 on: September 18, 2008, 03:23:25 pm »
 So, I just got back. Uninstalled Nvidia, did a restart, reinstalled, restarted again.

 I have a question.

 When you have a set up from Nvidia such as this does do you also still set up in windows display properties? I have been setting resolution etc in Windows and then doing the set up through Nvidia. Does the windows properties have any effect on any of this? Or am I wasting my time or worse affecting this in a negative way with it?

 I got the 6200 back in now anyways. Gonna look for that profiler thingie!

[SJ]DenDanger

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Re: GTR2 keeps shutting down.
« Reply #19 on: September 18, 2008, 04:19:39 pm »
 WOOHOOOOO!!!!!!!!

 You guys RAWK!!!! If you're ever in Toronto, make sure you let me know in advance enough to make sure I CAN buy you a beer!! (more like BEER(S)!) You all deserve it!!

 Disabled Profiler. Didn't use it anyways. Stupid thing!

 Shadows are already off but glad to know to check.

 Took it out of letterbox. Tried it. Worked.

 Ramped it up to DX9, 2 laps and BLAMMO!! Back to restart sh**. PC crashed. Ooops!

 Okay, no problem.We (sort of) know what we're (sort of) doing now so...

 Internet back on, (Gotta keep baseline) and back into letterbox but still DX9.......and.....

 Oh wow!! Just ran 9 laps and ran outa gas again! MWAHAHAHAAA!!

 Success!!

 Now, gotta reinstall GTL for Alfatina and once all is well will see what happens with multiple cars but leaving settings there for now and doing that test later. YAAAAAY!!

 *Gets up on podium*
 *moves mic centre stage*
     I LOVE YOU GUYS!!!!!!!!! *sniff*

 rofl :hats off: :hats off: :hats off: :hats off:  chocks away

[SJ]DenDanger

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Re: GTR2 keeps shutting down.
« Reply #20 on: September 19, 2008, 03:38:45 pm »


I would recommend driver cleaner, but its pay software nowadays.


 Anyways, MUCH better but still quirky. I figured out how to do a scandisk on XP and spent a few hours last night. Uninstalled the driver again, did a scandisk, defrag, re-installed did it again and bit better but now GTL is acting up!!!!

 I can play and even lowered graphics are MUCH better but when exiting game it crashes with error code. WEIRD.

 I'm really wondering since when I reload the driver if there are bits of the old driver(s) doing bad things as it always asks me to overwrite certain files. I'm going to see if I can find a free cleaner as I think this may be the problem. There is technically NO reason this card shouldn't work.

 Right now I'm just going to make sure GTL will stay running enough for me to run Alfatina tonight. Not going to tear too much apart until later as I want to start up GTR2 and see if it's still where it was. Then I know we're getting somewhere.

 Then I will see if I can find any left over Nvidia files and remove them and see if that helps.

 Lucky for me, I'm not only methodical but as the wife says Obsessive........Haha.
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[SJ]DenDanger

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Re: GTR2 keeps shutting down.
« Reply #21 on: September 19, 2008, 05:44:14 pm »
 Always, one misses ONE detail eh?? So I uninstalled the driver. Got a cleaner. Cleaned it up.

 Did a Scandisk, did a defrag.

 Let Windows install a driver and it installed the GeForce 6200 driver. Not a bad thing but where I let the details screw up. Mainly as I'm not sure WHERE it found the software! I was off line and hoping the cleaner cleaned OUT all the Nvidia software. Now I DID have the disc in the drive so it may have gotten it from there but don't know. See what I mean about details??? LOL.

 Anyways. Going to give it a whirl and as long as I can get things up enough for Alfatina will leave it until tomorrow.

 Then tomorrow I will be:

 1. Remove Nvidia drivers.
 2. Use cleaner again.
 3. WITHOUT disc in, do a restart as a "dry run" to see if windows again finds software. (Just so I "know".)


 Now I read a few places that as much as a kernal out of place can completely F*** GTR2 so now I know how to do a scandisk.....

 4. Once again remove GTL and GTR. THIS time, will run the cleaner to make sure all is gone.
 5.Run Scandisk and then defrag.
 6. Add graphics drivers. Run defrag again.
 7. Cross fingers and reinstall GTL and GTR2 once again.
 8. Not being a religious man do something close to praying. *giggle*
 9. See what happens, leave it alone after, say "bugger it" and start saving for a better graphics card.....

 

 

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Re: GTR2 keeps shutting down.
« Reply #22 on: September 19, 2008, 06:12:22 pm »
 SWEET BUGGERING F****ING HELL!!!

 Now GTR is back to where it was.....

 Okay. Taking a break until tomorrow, then going through EVERYTHING!!!!!!!

 (Wife asked "Could I help?" Told her, "Only if ya got a better video card on ya!" Hahahaaa Still laughing anyways as I know the results are worth the work.)

[SJ]DenDanger

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Re: GTR2 keeps shutting down.
« Reply #23 on: September 19, 2008, 06:41:01 pm »
 Dammit.

 So, it WAS at a point where I could play GTL but got the error code as I shut it down. (Haha) But now...GRRRR.

 Soooo........

 Just reinstalled the old graphics card again. Better to play at all than not. I'm getting tired of this now.

 Wife said "Maybe the new card is just defective?"

 Kinda' scoffed but maybe????? I dunno.

[SJ]DenDanger

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Re: GTR2 keeps shutting down.
« Reply #24 on: September 19, 2008, 07:00:21 pm »
 So. GTR2 seems to work once again.

 Still have to try GTL again  and about to.

 Funny as I only got this to get GT Legends but as I dabbled more and more started to get addicted.

 Even the F1 mod after Tysmyster got me to install it. I actually LIKED it and normally I rank Formula 1 right up there with NASCAR!! Haha.

 Anyways. Going to get this working again and screw the new card.

 Lesson learned? Yeah.

 *Don't waste time and money on a graphics card unless one can get a MUCH better one*



 Oops.

 I may be methodical but I can also be very impatient......
lol
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