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[SJ]Cato Larsen

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Fallout 3 intro
« on: October 30, 2008, 07:46:16 am »
So....
The third game in the series has been released.
The series that made the more mature group of PC gamers go ballistic some years ago. Well about 15 years ago really.
I used to play these games over and over. Something about the setting, and the dialog... well The general feeling of the game.
It was something new back then. Drugs, killing people, buying sex from hooker and so on.

This game has been made by Betheseda softworks. The makers of The elder scrolls series.
Applauded for their big free roaming worlds and amazingly good graphics.
Hated for their monotonic dialogues and small bugs that seems to never be fixed.
You can say what you want about Betheseda softworks, but making RPG/FPS games is something that they are good at.

Many people where afraid that they feeling of playing FALLOUT would be lost now that Betheseda took over, and to some point I tend to agree.
It is not the same game at all really, but then again it is.
hard to explain really but when you go from a "thitd person click mouse and move" game to a FPS the feeling of playing is totally different.
Let it be said that you have the option to use 3rd person view here aswell. It works in the same way that Oblivion did.
The graphics is just about the same aswell. Looks good, but very demanding on the system. One thing that you should just forget right now is the green forrests of the game Oblivion. They have been replaced with the real Oblivion of earth.
After the nuclearwar, people transferred the earth to an almost inhabitable soil of dust and rocks. Most waterspots is highly radiated and will kill you if you stay there long enough.
Most animals has been mutated to things that would love to feed on your flesh. Well, even some humans will love to do the same. The prospering Cities that you loved to walk around in in Oblivion has been replaced with small colonies build out of any scrap metal that they could find.

The atmosphere is there. No doubt. If you have played the serie from the start you know exactly where you are. The wastelands.

But this story does not begin in the Wastelands.
You start of as a baby popping out of you mums bleeding vagina. First thing you see is your dad talking. Amazing for a baby to understand such stuff but well........
This is where you choose your sex, how you would look when you grow up and so on. For the ones that played Oblivion, you can take this as the way you start there. Only in Oblivin you start of as adult and in jail.
The following steps is sort of your training session. You are born in Vault 101. Where no one enters. and no one ever leaves. Well, thats until you start playing the game.
The vault is a big Space in a mountain that was built to keep people safe during the nuclearwar. You have lived here all your life, or so they tell you. You where born here and you are supposed to die here. there is this 50-60`s feeling of the whole thing, out dated computers, the music, the clothes that some people wear when you become a teenager. Like Fonzie in Happy days. You get the drift here.

You can interract with every NPC in this game. Different questions and answers gives different way of development. You can be good or bad or right down nasty if that suits you.
This will also affect they way people look and talk at you.

You wake up one day in the vault, well you are woken by a girl that I feel has some impact on your life.The Overseers daughter. Story will tell.
Anyway, she wakes you up and tells you that your father has escaped without a word about it. Her father, the Overseer has gone mad about the whole thing and is comming for you. The Overseer is the president in the Vault. The main person in all things involved.
She gives you the pass to her fathers computer and tells you to escape.

Here is where the game really begins. This is where you desice what to do. Kill your way out or sneak your way out. Depends on how you wanna be. Personally I have already chosen that I will kill anything in my way and if someone looks at me the wrong way, they will get a bullet to the head. So no questions asked I started to bash my way when the guards came for me. When I got to the Overseers office, he was unfortunate to be there. He started to shoot at me. bad idea really. I was not in the mood for such so I smashed his head in. Got to his computer and opened the passage to the Vault entrance.
His daughter was supposed to meet me there. This is the first time you notice how the game reacts to your actions. She was pretty pissed at me for killing her father and did not want to talk to me anymore. She opened the vault and off in to the Vastelands I go.

If you have ever seen any of the MadMax movies that made Mel Gibson popular, the Vastelands can sort of reminds you of some settings there.
Or pretty much any 80`s "heavy metal" movie. For younger people or mamas boys I can mention Waterworld (only not so much water) and Postman, both played out with lady killer, Kevin Costner. Ok.... enough of the movie collection.
This is not a happy world. Anything and anyone will kill you if you play your words wrong.
I will leave the story here and let you play it your way.

I could go on for ever about the game but the best way to enjoy this is to play it yourself.
It works in the exact same way as Oblivion, only in a different world, different time and different carachters. Oh and you have guns. from pee guns to mini nukes and miniguns.
Says it all really.

Have fun.. I know I am.

[SJ]Jarkko Rantajoki

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Re: Fallout 3 intro
« Reply #1 on: October 30, 2008, 11:54:34 am »
I tried to kill the overseers daughter during my massacre sprint through Vault 101.. couldnt.. it said shes "unconscious" because she was a story character apparenly.. grr..
Anyway since you told the most allready.. i guess i put my pros and cons that ive seen so far.

Pros+
-Game feels like Fallout.
-You can do moral decisions, sometimes even of a big degree.
-All dialoque is spoken.
-Combining turn based and real based fighting seems to work pretty good.
-Graphics are sometimes very nice.
-Wasteland is a believable place.
-Game start was pretty fun.. allthough basic character creation.. living parts of the childhood was something new.
-If you put your nose into a wrong place at first.. you will die.
-Few improvements to Oblivion engine..

Cons-
-..but theres still lot of problems Oblivion had.
-Camera is weird often in turn based slowmos.
-Looking at the post nuclerar war ruins can get bit boring.
-Using pip-boy can be a pain in the ass.. I miss hotkeys to certain pages there. (might be there, maybe i didnt discover them yet)
-No fuckin minimap! grrrr.. the pip boy is supposed to be on your wrist.. not a single reason why you shouldnt have one.. and you really miss it too sometimes!
-Character development.
-Lockpicking.. a pain in the ass..
-The NPC players are very static again, and placed there for player.. just like in oblivion.. a little more activity in them instead of standing on a certain spot forever waiting for player would have been nice.. now they eat immersion a lot.
-The real time shooting feels a bit shit at times when you clearly cant hit a barn door from couple meters at first.

Partly disapointed definitely.. too much oblivion and too many things they didnt learn from it.. but then again it feels like a Fallout experience.. has new ideas a bit too.. and seems reasonably well finished all around.. and its again moddable.. which is great.

A release of this caliber will make the modders to improve the irritations of the game without a single doubt.. and im sure we will see plenty of mods to enhance the experience pretty soon.
Still.. it will be polished Oblivion in the end though.. just gotta live with it i guess.
« Last Edit: October 30, 2008, 11:58:24 am by [SJ]Jarkko Rantajoki »

[SJ]Cato Larsen

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Re: Fallout 3 intro
« Reply #2 on: October 30, 2008, 12:11:02 pm »
You are quite right Jarkks.
Problem is as far as I know. They have not released any mod tools yet. And prob will not before the "have time for it" as they say.

The game would be polished by the community in many ways, problem is to gather them all to make everything better.
NPC AI would be nice if they could do something to.

I have concentrated on the intro to the game and the feeling you have when starting to play.
But as i also stated. It works like Oblivion. It will always work like Oblivion.

You can still have fun, the game can be played for many many many hours and you have shit load to explore.
But even so there is something missing. Something that would make you stay, build a life in the wasteland. Sounds stupid maybe but I think you know what I mean.


Your pros and cons Jarkko are pretty much spot on.

i would like to add....
Cons- Whenever I am in the wastelands, people shoot me on sight. Well most anyway. I dunno why and maybe thats just what they are supposed to do.
I find that a bit stupid. Just like in FARCRY 3 I would like some dialogue or anything at all but just shoot shoot shoot.
I would like them to have a reason to shoot me. You know?

Anyway. I will keep playing the shit out of the game and give more statements.

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Re: Fallout 3 intro
« Reply #3 on: October 30, 2008, 12:14:29 pm »

i would like to add....
Cons- Whenever I am in the wastelands, people shoot me on sight. Well most anyway. I dunno why and maybe thats just what they are supposed to do.
I find that a bit stupid. Just like in FARCRY 3 I would like some dialogue or anything at all but just shoot shoot shoot.
I would like them to have a reason to shoot me. You know?



Ive seen quite some people wander around and not shoot me (but kills the bandits with me for example).. also if you keep your gun hidden it will help.. if you keep it out the holster all the time.. of course most will attack you.
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Re: Fallout 3 intro
« Reply #4 on: October 30, 2008, 12:20:03 pm »
Ok one thing kinda sucks.. you get plenty of guns pretty early.. i have all kinds of pistols.. sniper rifle.. assault rifle.. hunting rifle and a combat shotgun allready..

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Re: Fallout 3 intro
« Reply #5 on: October 30, 2008, 12:34:57 pm »

i would like to add....
Cons- Whenever I am in the wastelands, people shoot me on sight. Well most anyway. I dunno why and maybe thats just what they are supposed to do.
I find that a bit stupid. Just like in FARCRY 3 I would like some dialogue or anything at all but just shoot shoot shoot.
I would like them to have a reason to shoot me. You know?



Ive seen quite some people wander around and not shoot me (but kills the bandits with me for example).. also if you keep your gun hidden it will help.. if you keep it out the holster all the time.. of course most will attack you.
:)


Well, Could be..... could be... I have been on rampage most of the time, but even so, they keep shooting me even with holstered gun, but I f I cool down a bit then maybe things will get better.

About guns and such. I even have a mini nuke. only shit is that I do not have any ammo for it yet. Dunno where to find it.

But yes, obtain guns and such is maybe a bit easy, but Killing a person allows you to setal his goods, so thats fair enough maybe.

But there should be harder to find ammo for the weapons though. The weapons could be easy enough to obtain, but what good will they do without ammo :)

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Re: Fallout 3 intro
« Reply #6 on: October 30, 2008, 01:30:04 pm »
All my money goes to ammo and stimpaks.. and im still always out of both.. so you really need to think what weapon to use and when to bring in the powerfull ones..
Kinda challenging to balance.. you can beat the crap out of wildlife with pipes and such.. but theres always the downside of having to heal yourself more than when you pop their heads..
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Re: Fallout 3 intro
« Reply #7 on: October 30, 2008, 02:57:24 pm »
In real life you would probably just hunt animals for food if needed and stay away from most things long enough to keep safe, but Hey.... I sound stupid here as this is a game.


Just..... well I get into these games.


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Re: Fallout 3 intro
« Reply #8 on: October 30, 2008, 03:22:26 pm »
In real life you wouldnt need the xp points either lol

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Re: Fallout 3 intro
« Reply #9 on: October 30, 2008, 05:03:08 pm »
In real life you wouldnt need the xp points either lol


better than Vista points. They would probably not work proper or be to heavy on my brain.

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Re: Fallout 3 intro
« Reply #10 on: October 30, 2008, 05:43:19 pm »
Sounds like elements of Judge Dredd (the "real" Dredd, not Rocky!), and that is a good thing.  Great reviews there lads; another my youngest hankers after, but probably on the X-Box just so i can get to the PC!

Oh, and Friskmeister... keep it in the holster, if you don't mind!  lol

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Re: Fallout 3 intro
« Reply #11 on: October 30, 2008, 05:47:20 pm »
Sounds like elements of Judge Dredd (the "real" Dredd, not Rocky!), and that is a good thing.  Great reviews there lads; another my youngest hankers after, but probably on the X-Box just so i can get to the PC!

Oh, and Friskmeister... keep it in the holster, if you don't mind!  lol


About the Dredd thingo... You are much spot on there mate.
Only the smal cities cannot compare to Dredds playground, the wastelands are pretty much spot on.


BTW... I just had some regulators after me for being the WASTELAND PIRATE...
They wanted to kill me....... :(
Had a 1000 caps on my head :burn him:

I might start over from earlier as I pretty much will get killed for walking outside at all really.

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Re: Fallout 3 intro
« Reply #12 on: October 30, 2008, 06:37:57 pm »
Sounds pretty cool, Frisky  thumbs up

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Re: Fallout 3 intro
« Reply #13 on: October 30, 2008, 06:44:43 pm »
Hopefully the youngest one aint too young.. this has pretty heavy stuff in it..
and i dont now mean blood and guts.
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« Reply #14 on: October 30, 2008, 06:55:24 pm »
ahh... right.  What age rating is it?  Youngest is a relatively sophisticated 12, but while we don't mind blood and guts, we don't dig drugs, sex and disturbing aspects while he is this young (but murder and maiming is ok!  lol)  We let him play things like Counter Strike, Quake Wars and so on, but won't let him play GTA, the game with the little girl running around (can't remember but it was spooky!) or games which tackle adult topics such as torture, cruelty and extortion.

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Re: Fallout 3 intro
« Reply #15 on: October 30, 2008, 08:01:10 pm »
If its anyhing else than 18 im suprised.. it has very mature stuff.. including sex, drugs, murder.. all kinds of other sickness (cruelty, extortion and torture just being some).. visual and storywise.
:)

Its based on a very ruthless and sad world after nuclear war..
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Re: Fallout 3 intro
« Reply #16 on: October 30, 2008, 08:36:06 pm »
son will have to wait for this one then... but sounds good, so I might have a furtle! Any multiplayer element?

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Re: Fallout 3 intro
« Reply #17 on: October 30, 2008, 10:17:27 pm »
son will have to wait for this one then... but sounds good, so I might have a furtle! Any multiplayer element?


Nope.. single player role playing.. im sure the game has few obstacles to get over if you havent played this type of games before.. well.. theres nothing quite like it except oblivion and morrowing maybe.

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Re: Fallout 3 intro
« Reply #18 on: November 02, 2008, 09:52:23 am »
got it yesterday along with FarCry2(not installed yet)

Fallout 3 is very impressive, the detail is amazing for the wasteland and the different former cities, i've only got to the school and Megaton city,lol,at the moment i'm just running/walking around dumbstruck at all the scenery.




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Re: Fallout 3 intro
« Reply #19 on: December 02, 2008, 11:41:58 pm »
Well I have now finished it once, and have started again(now knowing to pace out the main quest even more than I did the first time)
I have already found new places and side quests I didn't even find the first time round(Big Town! I can't believe I didn't come across it the first time!!)
I'm actually looking more forward to my 2nd run thru as I can concentrate on exploring alot more than I did(and I did alot the first time) and doing more of the side quests.

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Re: Fallout 3 intro
« Reply #20 on: July 08, 2009, 07:48:59 am »
I just started playing this game this week.  I purchased it a while back but it wouldn't run.  I've been using it to test out my video issues, and somehow I got sucked into playing for hours and hours.

This game is not my normal cup of tea.  I have never played anything like it.  Tonight I blew up Megaton and went to Tenpenny's place.  I then unleashed the ghouls on Tenpenny tower.  I wish I hadn't gone evil.  I think I'm going to go back and start again.


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Re: Fallout 3 intro
« Reply #21 on: July 08, 2009, 10:44:04 am »
Going evil might bite ya in the arse in the game.. but it will make it easier to.. obtain items.. Evil takes what he wants..
Its a great game m8, im happy that you have widened your gaming perspectives.

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« Reply #22 on: July 10, 2009, 08:13:15 am »
I put in a few hours tonight without even realizing it.  I've decided to try and straighten up my karma.  It may take some time though.  At least I can trade with the rotten skins at Tenpenny.  Although it seems they only sale the junk I didn't already take.

I do miss the folks in Megaton.  It seems now like I have no friendly place to kick it.  It's weird how this game can get into your head so you would say something like I just did.  It's just that everyone else I see wants to shoot at me.  That fact kind of pisses me off!  So I just kill all of them. 

lol

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Re: Fallout 3 intro
« Reply #23 on: July 13, 2009, 09:40:48 am »
I've decided to start over and see if I can leave the vault without killing my little girlfriend's dad.  Anyone managed to do that?

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Re: Fallout 3 intro
« Reply #24 on: July 13, 2009, 10:00:41 am »
I've decided to start over and see if I can leave the vault without killing my little girlfriend's dad.  Anyone managed to do that?



I think i did on the first time, cant be sure though.. as ive started several times again after that :D
(had the game for pc and then xbox360)